总监：不错，抄了

The feedback of the spirit to the physical world is something every materialist must admit, and the materialist believes that "matter determines consciousness" rather than "spirit", or "self-consciousness" (self-consciousness). conscious)" (the distinction between these terms can be seen in Phenomenology of Mind). Denying this is equivalent to saying that you have no inner voice, weak inner vision, and no control over your body, which is equivalent to not acknowledging the huge influence of pure concepts such as money, law, and country on reality (by the way, marx himself is a researcher this), which is the most idealistic behavior. Because in the final analysis, consciousness is the inevitable step of the self-intermediation of matter, and the deepest power of the subject is material, which is why materialists say the so-called "subjective initiative", but the laying of the ontology by the substance and the effect of the subject on the substance The mode of mediation is dangling and purely contingent, so the effect of consciousness on reality depends on the laying of ontology by matter.
And my point of view in the comments is - the level is not enough, the action strategy is wrong, half of it is done, but it is not finished, this time has the opposite effect, not everyone can directly pursue spiritual wealth, those who are really at the bottom The fundamental problem of the people is not "We want to relieve our heart disease and find our pure self", their most basic problem is - they simply do not want to live in such a situation. Without touching the deeper level, the urban cycle has been further consolidated through the method of "treatment of heart disease", which is a method of delineating the scope. The difference, the best way to maintain stability is partial and partial resistance (timed striking, Lenin vigorously refuted this kind of opportunism in his article), the real control is to declare that you can create chaos and clean it up

It is the most typical idealism to put material and spirit in rigid opposition without thinking that they can be converted into each other. Engels severely criticized this vulgar "development of socialist utopia" materialism".

And the angle I use in my comments is more from a philosophical, rather than a political economy, point of view, and even the horses in it are not fundamentalist horses, the whole system is more of a post-structuralist point of view. The embodied existentialism (I don't even think the game deserves it) and the canonical ideological critique that it's called dogmatism and fundamentalism is really scary.

I don't think I'm a leftist, but if you really want to refute a leftist, I suggest you learn from Comrade Lenin, read more books, and actively improve yourself. The theory will be updated, otherwise materialism will become metaphysics. It is better to waste less time and energy in the debate

That‘s all I want to say so far.

嗯，这次的回复比b站的暴论强点。我分开来回复，首先是关于计划和如何反抗都市。

你从一开始就将光之种定义安抚群众的心脏病和精神财富，这就是最核心的谬误。我在上文已经提到，光之种不是心理治疗，不会令都市人更加安于现状。恰恰相反，光之种从设计之初就是为了帮助都市人重拾希望，让他们直面自己被都市压迫的痛苦从而产生反抗的勇气，同时还将潜在的武装力量分给了都市人。
这不是局部暴动，这是revolu开始前的思想传播。思想指导和广大的工人皆层，这是revol的前提，光之种计划就是这个前提， 总想着一步到位，那是盲动。也是我挂你的最初目的，我不认可你对月计世界现状分析，在这个问题解决之前，我不会进入唯心和唯物的哲学争论。@Chiaoqen

其实这种人你只要问问他怎么解决现实的压榨和加班问题就哑火了

在都市的大背景下，都市人长期处在对生命安全的迫切需求中，绝大多数的人目标只有进入巢中以保护自己的生命安全。产生现状的原因是都市设计之初就以人的痛苦和仇恨为动力，这又是与现实中劳动异化完全不同的点，资政府一直在努力消除劳动异化所带给人的痛苦，因为人对异化的痛苦会促使他对现有秩序发出挑战。这也是加倍异化作为解决办法的由来，越深刻的痛苦，越能促使人面对现实。
但月计不是，首脑乐于见到都市人的痛苦，并且努力维护这一现状以促使都市前进，加倍的异化正中下怀。所以“纯真的自我”这一概念才会出现，他不是传统宗教意义上难以发掘的天性，而是光之种通过直接的手段使人感受希望和自我本应拥有的快乐，从而使现实的痛苦越发强烈。@Chiaoqen

我还以为大伙都是玩玩游戏的，没想到还有这种分析贴

我局得既然Lob和LoR的叙事核心是卡巴拉，那就得顺着总监的这套宗教逻辑和现实的美德不完全一一对应的逻辑来。“纯真的自我”与“冠”（Kether）对应，其概念为世界被创造前的本源形态，也就是说，在这个卡巴拉生命树成功完成了的世界观是切实存在的东西，和海德格尔那个假定概念是有所区别的。用现实中的哲学概念否定都市的“纯真的自我”，就和在讨论中世纪奇幻小说中说“龙是一种虚构生物，因此故事中的龙只是某种误称或错觉”一般荒谬…当然，您倒是可以借此批判总监思想有问题，那您可以选择“不听、不看、不说”的古典哲学来应对这部根基有问题的作品。

首脑怕的不是被推翻，怕的是直接改变运转形式