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People rating 8/10 or even 9/10 (when performance is patched) is exactly what this game deserves. However there are actually People out there rating Wuchang Fallen Feathers as a 1/5.
人们给 8/10 甚至 9/10(当性能被修补时)的评分正是这款游戏应得的。然而,实际上有人将无常掉落的羽毛评为 1/5。
Seriously. PlayStation store has 23% users giving it 1 star. Thats NOT honest. It’s clear people have loads of bias and are hiding it behind “performance issues”.
认真地。PlayStation 商店有 23% 的用户给它 1 星。这不诚实。很明显,人们有很多偏见,并将其隐藏在“性能问题”后面。
Which let’s be real, the performance issues are nill. Some sampling issues don’t make the game unplayable. And it has less issues than Wukong did at launch. But where people forgave wukong people are rating it a 1 here? Nahh…people obviously have ulterior motives here.
说实话,性能问题为零。某些采样问题不会使游戏无法玩。而且它的问题比《悟空》发布时要少。但是原谅了悟空的人在这里给它打 1 分呢?不。。。这里的人显然别有用心。
The game is finished. There’s no bugs unlike most game releases. Hell even Nightrein crashes CONSTANTLY. A few frame rate dips is hardly a bug issue. Especially considering UE5 has to be optimized for 100’s of different GPU specs. The way people are tanking reviews on Wuchang but ignoring complete game crashes on nightrein is just unfair.
游戏结束了。与大多数游戏版本不同,没有错误。见鬼,连夜灵也经常崩溃。一些帧速率下降几乎不是一个错误问题。特别是考虑到 UE5 必须针对数百种不同的 GPU 规格进行优化。人们在武昌上发表评论,却忽视夜间游戏的完整崩溃,这是不公平的。
Idk if it’s the “anti-woke” misogynistic and xenophobic crowd or what. But the way they tanked reviews on a beautifully made and fun game is quite unfair. In no world is this a 1 star game, people need to get more honest.
不知道是“反觉醒”的厌恶女性和仇外人群还是什么。但他们对一款制作精美且有趣的游戏的评论是相当不公平的。在任何世界里,这都不是一星游戏,人们需要变得更加诚实。


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    loodswan1313•8h ago•Edited 8h ago
    Anything below 3/5 is a dishonest review in my opinion. Game has some flaws and annoyances but it is a solid game at the very least.
    在我看来,任何低于 3/5 的评论都是不诚实的评论。游戏有一些缺陷和烦恼,但它至少是一款可靠的游戏。
    Some are from angry nationalistic Chinese but I have seen some gamers say they will refuse to play this because you don't have a male protagonist choice. That is one of the dumbest reasons to not play a good game I have ever heard and it just shows why it is hard to take a lot of game reviews seriously.
    有些来自愤怒的民族主义中国人,但我看到一些游戏玩家说他们会拒绝玩这个游戏,因为你没有男主角的选择。这是我听过的不玩好游戏的最愚蠢的理由之一,它只是说明了为什么很难认真对待很多游戏评论。


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      NomadicAx•9h ago
      A lot of Chinese players have review bombed the game because the writing excludes the Manchu from the story. Really don't know enough about Chinese history to go into detail but that's what I've heard. You can Google it.
      很多中国玩家都对这款游戏进行了评论轰炸,因为写作将满族排除在故事之外。我对中国历史的了解还不够多,无法详细介绍,但这就是我听说的。你可以用谷歌搜索它。
      I think that and maybe a few reviews from people who are frustrated at the unfair knockdown mechanic and performance issues can explain the lower scores.
      我认为,也许一些对不公平的击倒机制和性能问题感到沮丧的人的评论可以解释较低的分数。
      It's unfortunate because I agree with you that the game is great! I think over time it will get the appreciation it deserves.
      很不幸,因为我同意你的看法,游戏很棒!我认为随着时间的推移,它会得到应有的赞赏。


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        Primary_Bedroom_8091•8h ago
        This game is a solid 9/10 for me. I didn't have many performance issues unlike other players.
        这个游戏对我来说是一个可靠的 9/10。与其他玩家不同,我没有太多性能问题。
        The game is probably going to be my personal goty, unless SH F pullls off a miracle.
        这个游戏可能会成为我个人的年度最佳,除非 SH F 创造奇迹。


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          bentleybasher•8h ago
          It’s definitely not a 2/10 game 🤣 8/10 easily, for me it’s pushing a 9/10 as it’s real fun to play. The combat reminds me of Bloodborne with the weapon switching and visceral combat. I love it tbf, yes it’s been a bit glitchy and at times it feels like punishment for punishments sake level wise etc but that is half the sadistic fun we all know and love from Soulslikes.
          这绝对不是 2/10 的游戏,轻易可以得出 8/10🤣,对我来说,它推动了 9/10,因为它玩起来真的很有趣。战斗让我想起了《血源诅咒》的武器切换和发自内心的战斗。我喜欢它,是的,它有点小故障,有时感觉像是为惩罚而惩罚,在水平上等等,但这是我们都知道和喜欢《魂类游戏》的虐待狂乐趣的一半。
          Some of the bosses if anything are a bit low quality vs the cinematic glory of say Elden Ring’s the toddler demon is especially low quality for me… but all in its a great take on a time tested formula. Enjoying just as much as Lies of P.
          有些 Boss 的质量有点低,而《Elden Ring》的蹒跚学步的恶魔的电影荣耀对我来说质量特别低......但总而言之,这是一个经过时间考验的公式。享受和 匹诺曹 一样多。


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            JRP45•54m ago
            Agreed on the punishment for punishment sake, sometimes they just throw at you a couple of tough enemies out of the blue and you need to backtrack a lot to get back to it; I’m enjoying the exploration as well, I’m at the area around the refugee camp and I still haven’t finished all (to the point I feel I left bits unexplored and don’t remember how to go back…I like there isn’t a map as well), and I haven’t even started the snowy area yet…; I have been in the refugee camp area for 3-4 days (granted with work I can’t do more than 2-3hrs a day)…haven’t even killed the “bird-lady” boss yet either.
            为了惩罚而同意惩罚,有时他们只是突然向你扔几个强敌,你需要回头很多才能回到原来;我也很享受这次探索,我在难民营周围的地区,但我还没有完成所有事情(以至于我觉得我留下了一些未探索的东西,不记得如何回去......我也喜欢没有地图),而且我什至还没有开始雪区......;我已经在难民营地区待了 3-4 天(当然,由于工作,我每天不能超过 2-3 小时)......甚至还没有杀死“鸟女”老大。
            The knockdown recovering times are annoying indeed and I felt the lighting boss around there was shooting me his bolts before I even crossed the fog door completely, but for me an 8/10 game so far.
            击倒恢复时间确实很烦人,我感觉周围的照明老板在我完全穿过雾门之前就向我发射了他的螺栓,但对我来说,到目前为止,这是一场 8/10 的游戏。


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              Fryguys-420•8h ago
              Anyone who's says this game is a one star, is just a dumb hater
              任何说这款游戏是一星的人,都只是一个愚蠢的仇恨者


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                iCantCallit•8h ago
                I think the game is spectacular and no amount of online anything will change how much fun I’m having playing this.
                我认为这款游戏非常壮观,再多的在线游戏也无法改变我玩这个游戏的乐趣。
                It’s my favorite souls game ever. More the lies, more than ds1-3 and it’s so close to bloodborne right now. I’m not sure if it’s bloodborne but it’s close.
                这是我最喜欢的灵魂游戏。更多的谎言,比 ds1-3 还多,而且现在已经非常接近血源性了。我不确定它是否是血源性,但它很接近。


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                  Jegaysus_h_christOP•8h ago
                  I’m thinking Wuchang has also become my favorite soulslike. It’s actually probably tied with Stellar Blade (Not counting Elden Ring). I never even finished Bloodbourne, the map was SO confusing to me. Too many drop downs and connections with hidden paths for progression, I get overwhelmed and need to follow a step by step guide.
                  我想无常也成为了我最喜欢的魂类游戏。它实际上可能与 剑星(不包括 Elden Ring)并列。我什至从未完成过 血缘,它的地图让我感到非常困惑。太多的下拉菜单和带有隐藏路径的连接,我会不知所措,需要遵循分步指南。
                  Which is funny, because people say the Wuchang map and paths are confusing but I actually love the world design.
                  而有趣的是,因为人们说无常地图和路径令人困惑,但我实际上很喜欢世界设计。


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                    JonathanDiaz3393•7h ago
                    The sad thing with this rating is that people who need to see a note or a review from the specialized press are most likely going to miss out on a very good game because of some frustrated people.
                    这个评级的可悲之处在于, 需要查看专业媒体的注释或评论的人很可能会因为一些沮丧的人而错过一款非常好的游戏。
                    What a great day to be a gamer who enjoys gaining their own experiences and not someone who depends on third parties to play something.
                    对于成为一名喜欢获得自己体验的游戏玩家来说,这是多么美好的一天,而不是依赖第三方来玩东西的人。


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                      PrettyIntroduction49•7h ago
                      its like a 8.5/10 ish. People forget its not $70-80 game its $50. It plays more like soulsborne than WuKong/StellarBlade which are great games but they tend to be on the more heavy action side.
                      它就像 8.5/10 左右。人们忘记了它不是 70-80 美元的游戏,而是 50 美元。它的玩法更像是《灵魂之源》,而不是《悟空/星辰之刃》,后者是很棒的游戏,但它们往往属于更重的动作方面。
                      I feel like they wont make Chinese soulslike for a while. EldenRing is 10/10 but it has performance issues at times also. Doesnt need to be a big open world game either. I feel like the Game Journalists, souls hardcore fans and Chinese culture purest attack the game cause of reasons to do with the character’s looks.
                      我觉得他们一时半会儿不会让中国人魂类化了。EldenRing 是 10/10,但它有时也会出现性能问题。也不需要是一个大型的开放世界游戏。我觉得游戏记者、灵魂铁杆粉丝和中国文化最纯粹地攻击游戏的原因与角色的外表有关。


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                        DfaultiBoi•9h ago
                        I gave it a 4, but I might bump it up to a 5 when the big patch comes in
                        我给了它 4 分,但当大补丁出现时,我可能会将其提高到 5 分
                        Jegaysus_h_christOP•8h ago
                        I bumped mine up to a 5 just to outweigh the negative 1 stars lol.
                        我把我的分数提高到 5 分,只是为了超过负 1 星,哈哈。
                        Nobody88Special720•7h ago
                        So then you didn't give it an honest review due to your bias lol. I rarely give games a perfect score because 10/10 or 5/5 should be reserved for top of the top perfect or near perfect games. Most of my favorite games still only have a 4/5. I gave wuchang 3/5 because as it stands that's what it deserves. Good game with questionable balancing and consistent frame drops to frozen screens. Might bump to 4/5 if update fixes the issue before I platinum. You are guilty of the same crime you stand to condemn. Take care.
                        所以由于你的偏见,你没有给它一个诚实的评论,哈哈。我很少给游戏满分,因为 10/10 或 5/5 应该保留给顶级完美或接近完美的游戏。我最喜欢的大多数游戏仍然只有 4/5。我给武昌 3/5 是因为它应得的。不错的游戏,平衡性有问题,并且画面冻结时会出现一致的掉帧。如果更新在我白金之前解决问题,可能会上升到 4/5。你犯下了你应该谴责的同样罪行。当心。
                        Jegaysus_h_christOP•7h ago
                        I get that lol. My reviews on other sites are 8.5/10. The reason I put 5 instead of 4 on PSN is because that’s how the ratings lean. It’s kinda like the AppStore, people rate it as all or nothing. If you look at the screenshot the highest ratings are 5 or 1. I followed that pattern. Sites where I can comment my thoughts I give it a more honest in depth review.
                        我明白了,哈哈。我在其他网站上的评论是 8.5/10。我在 PSN 上放 5 而不是 4 的原因是因为收视率就是这样倾斜的。这有点像 AppStore,人们将其评为全有或全无。如果您查看屏幕截图,最高评分是 5 或 1。我遵循了这种模式。我可以评论我的想法的网站,我会给它一个更诚实的深入评论。
                        But ultimately yeah I agree. Me giving it a 4 but actually submitting a 5 is dishonest. But I justify it by it being a benevolent lie as compared to those who are seeking ill will or trying to harm developers reputation. I want to support a good game as much as possible as they deserve it. and I don’t feel guilty over that.
                        但最终是的,我同意。我给它 4 分,但实际上提交了 5 分是不诚实的。但我为之辩护,因为与那些寻求恶意或试图损害开发者声誉的人相比,这是一个仁慈的谎言。我想尽可能地支持一场精彩的比赛,因为他们应得的。我对此并不感到内疚。


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                          Jegaysus_h_christOP•8h ago
                          Follow up: If you have enjoyed this game but haven’t rated it yet make sure to take a few seconds to do so. I rated it on PS and Metacritic, and a few other gaming sites. We can’t let the naysayers be the only ones submitting ratings
                          跟进:如果您喜欢这款游戏但尚未对其进行评分,请务必花几秒钟进行评分。我在 PS 和 Metacritic 以及其他一些游戏网站上对它进行了评分。我们不能让反对者成为唯一提交评级的人
                          Robert_Balboa•8h ago
                          My honest score is a 3/5 so I think this rating is about right
                          我的诚实分数是 3/5,所以我认为这个评分是正确的
                          Jegaysus_h_christOP•8h ago
                          3/5 feels honest and definitely ok if that’s your personal taste. I appreciate reviews that are just scoring based on merit and not review bombing.
                          3/5 感觉很诚实,如果这是你的个人品味,绝对没问题。我很欣赏那些仅根据优点而不是评论轰炸来评分的评论。
                          cynicalsaint1•7h ago
                          I'd probably give it a 3/5.
                          我可能会给它 3/5 分。
                          Feels pretty mid, level design has been great, combat is good but nothing too amazing. Currently up to Honglan.
                          感觉很中等,关卡设计很棒,战斗很好,但没什么太惊人的。目前至红蓝。
                          If i had known Lies of P was going to be free on PS+ this month I probably would have skipped it, but I wanted something new to play while waiting on the new Nightreign bosses.
                          如果我知道《P 的谎言》本月将在 PS+ 上免费,我可能会跳过它,但我想在等待新的 Nightreign Boss 时玩一些新的东西。
                          Jegaysus_h_christOP•6h ago
                          I bought Lies of P last month 😢 I have done that with 3 games now. Death Stranding, GOW, Spiderman. Pick them up and bam they are on PS plus.
                          我上个月😢买了 Lies of P,我现在已经用 3 款游戏做到了这一点。死亡搁浅、GOW、蜘蛛侠。拿起它们,砰的一声,它们在 PS plus 上。
                          But as far as Lies of P? I…. Don’t like it lol. The game doesn’t click with me. I can’t get past the 2nd real boss and it just feels too clunky for me to enjoy. I love the atmosphere of the world design. But the level design lacks for me as well. I just stopped playing it entirely. (Double sucks that I bought it lol)
                          但就 P 的谎言而言?我。。。。不喜欢它,哈哈。游戏不合我意。我无法越过第二个真正的老板,而且感觉太笨拙了,我无法享受。我喜欢世界设计的氛围。但关卡设计对我来说也缺乏。我只是完全停止玩它。(我买的真是太糟糕了,哈哈)


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                            Brumbby_TTV•7h ago
                            I personally 100% agree with you this is my favorite souls like and a competitor against ds1 and 2 for top souls game but I understand how it’s not what some people want.
                            我个人 100% 同意你的观点,这是我最喜欢的灵魂游戏,也是顶级灵魂游戏与 ds1 和 2 的竞争对手,但我理解这不是某些人想要的。
                            Criticism on visuals and atmosphere are in the eye of the beholder so can’t really fault people for not liking them (I think the game looks beautiful)
                            对视觉效果和氛围的批评在旁观者的眼中,所以不能真正责怪人们不喜欢它们(我认为游戏看起来很漂亮)
                            In terms of gameplay Iv seen some people complaining about how specific actions feel in combat like healing and getting up, I have a good feeling these people are ds3 and Elden ring lovers as the healing and getup feels better than ds1 and 2 while not just letting you spam flasks like in ds3 and Elden ring.
                            在游戏玩法方面,Iv 看到一些人抱怨战斗中的特定动作(例如治疗和起床)的感觉,我有一种很好的感觉,这些人是 ds3 和 Elden ring 的爱好者,因为治疗和装扮感觉比 ds1 和 2 更好,同时不只是让你像 ds3 和 Elden ring 那样发送垃圾邮件烧瓶。
                            EconomyPretty4424•7h ago
                            Reviews on steam are still mixed. People are overly emotional nowadays and Chinese nationalism is another problem for this game
                            Steam 上的评论仍然褒贬不一。现在的人们过于情绪化,中国民族主义是这场比赛的另一个问题
                            BlackLeather_LLH•8h ago
                            People trended by KOLs (mainly Chinese, claimed the game is expensive and couldn't stand all got the deluxe bonus, then tried to spin away and said you can't kill qing worrier is a shame) tended to completely negate the game, saying it's a total piece of shit.
                            被KOL(关键意见领袖,以中文用户为主)带动的群体声称游戏定价过高,并无法忍受所有玩家都获得豪华版奖励,随后试图转移话题称"不能杀死清战士是一种耻辱",最终倾向于全盘否定该游戏,称其"完全是一坨屎"。


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                              NeoNirvana•5h ago
                              I'm not even allowed to rate it on PSN, so I wouldn't trust those numbers. Likely because Sony did something stupid like make the pre-order a seperate product that disappeared on launch day, as it also says I don't own any version of the game at all.
                              我什至不被允许在 PSN 上对其进行评分,所以我不会相信这些数字。可能是因为索尼做了一些愚蠢的事情,比如让预购成为一个单独的产品,但在发布当天就消失了,因为它还说我根本不拥有该游戏的任何版本。


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