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赫伦堡大小马胖是不是写错了

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最近又翻了遍书,发现不对,研究了一下,赫伦堡大小应该至少三十个临冬城才合理。临冬城占地几亩大小就算六亩(三亩应该是说神木林)差不多两万四千平米,赫伦堡有三个临冬城大也才七万平米。这么算下来也没多大,然而bug来了:“马厩可以容纳一千只马,神木林占地20亩(八万平米),厨房跟临冬城的大厅一样大,门楼就跟临冬城的主堡一样大,最矮的塔楼就是减去一半都比临冬城最高的建筑要高。”别说神木林,单是马厩也差不多了,查了下英文的也是三倍,(The castle covers three times as much ground as Winterfell)应该又是马胖子开始写的时候把三十写成三没注意,后面没圆回来。


IP属地:云南来自iPhone客户端1楼2024-07-29 01:00回复
    可能赫伦堡形容有夸张 要不马丁可能也没算的太严谨 这种太细节


    IP属地:北京来自Android客户端2楼2024-07-29 01:07
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      2025-10-25 07:58:08
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      呃,30倍,不可能吧,泰温驻军赫伦堡2w,都需要在赫伦堡外边搭帐篷,临冬城容纳不了500人?我看卷5没这意思。


      IP属地:山东来自Android客户端5楼2024-07-29 01:50
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        现实英国的伦敦塔城堡都七万平米了,你可以看下没多大 难道赫伦堡只有伦敦塔的大小??


        IP属地:北京来自Android客户端6楼2024-07-29 07:07
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          我记得我以前算的赫伦堡面积在30万平米以上来着…你这个7万多平米是怎么来的?


          IP属地:山东来自Android客户端7楼2024-07-29 08:04
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            我之前按照维基百科上给出的临冬城的平面图比例尺换算过临冬城大概11万平米多…按着这个比例换算赫伦堡33万平米接近34万平米的样子,但是我看到国外有个参与过权利的游戏制作的老外把剧集里赫伦的镜头都扣出来拼接+查阅老马的手稿之类的画了一个赫伦堡大概的平面图,按照那个平米图来进行计算的话赫伦堡面积保底都有故宫大小…至于有个赫伦堡的插图文字描述占地千亩的话…那就4平方公里大小了


            IP属地:山东来自Android客户端8楼2024-07-29 08:15
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              临冬城的六亩大小和赫伦堡神木林的20亩都是出自英文原版吗?有没有可能是翻译问题?


              IP属地:上海9楼2024-07-29 08:44
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                这是爱丁堡城堡三万五千平米(9亩不到),三倍临冬城的下限。


                IP属地:云南来自iPhone客户端10楼2024-07-29 09:10
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                  这是梅兰加尔城堡,八万一千平米(20亩),三倍临冬城的上限。这也是现实中城墙最接近原著的城堡,120尺高70尺宽,划重点只是城墙。它坐落在122米(400英尺)高的山上,有36米高,21米宽的墙壁,穿过七个门后进入。


                  IP属地:云南来自iPhone客户端11楼2024-07-29 09:19
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                    The ancient godswood of Winterfell has stood untouched for ten thousand years, with three acres of old packed earth and close-together trees creating a dense canopy, which the castle was built around. 这是临冬城神木林三亩。
                    godswood of Harrenhal is walled over twenty acres and has a small stream running through it. 这是赫伦堡神木林二十多亩。


                    IP属地:云南来自iPhone客户端12楼2024-07-29 10:00
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                      维斯特洛不是现实世界


                      IP属地:江苏来自iPhone客户端14楼2024-07-29 15:26
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                        你这些关于临冬城数据,大致应该来自冰与火之歌的世界。
                        但这里面有歧义东西很多
                        within its walls, the castle sprawls across several acres of land, encompassing many freestanding buildings. the oldest of these—a long-abandoned tower, round and squat and covered with gargoyles—has become known as the first keep. some take this to mean that it was built by the first men, but maester kennet has definitively proved that it could not have existed before the arrival of the andals since the first men and the early andals raised square towers and keeps. round towers came sometime later.
                        to the trained eye, the architecture of winterfell is an amalgam of many different eras. and its vastness not only encompasses buildings but open areas as well. in fact, three acres alone are given over to an ancient godswood, where legend tells us brandon the builder once prayed to his gods. whether this is true or not, the antiquity of the grove cannot be contested. and the godswood no doubt benefits from the hot springs that are contained within it, protecting the trees from the worst of the winter’s chill.
                        首先,几英亩那段,是墙内,不是总的。而且那段强调几英亩里面有建筑,下一段又把建筑面积和空地分开说了,(建筑面积之外还有很多空地),那几英亩说的到底是墙内总面积,还是建筑面积弄不准。


                        IP属地:山东来自Android客户端15楼2024-07-29 16:51
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                          应该是写错了,马丁不是数学家,这不重要


                          IP属地:上海来自Android客户端16楼2024-07-29 19:57
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