最近看到大家很爱讨论四神创世论。 而四神创世的一个重要论点大概是说奸奇拥有永恒之井,或者说永恒之井是奸奇本身的一部分,所以是奸奇创造了实体宇宙。今天我就和大家讨论下我对奸奇和永恒之井的关系。
首先我们来看看永恒之井的原文:
The Well of Eternity is a mystical location within the Warp itself where it is situated at the very centre of reality. Thus, it existed in a place where time and space originated as well as ended. When the Chaos God Tzeentch, the Grand Sorcerer, desired to learn of the future, he travelled to the Well, where he sent his most powerful and trusted Lords of Change though none emerged from the currents within this site. An exasperated Tzeentch thus decided to cast his own vizier, Kairos into the Well of Eternity who miraculously survived and gained knowledge of events in the future.
这段话大概就是说,渴望了解未来的奸奇跋山涉水走到永恒之井面前。然后排出他手底下最强最受信任的大魔去永恒之井一探究竟,可是没有一个生还。知道Kairos出场,才奇迹般生还并且了解到了未来的时间。
很多人拿着永恒之井处于奸奇造的宫的中央,就说属于奸奇的领域,所以是奸奇的一部分。 这个推论在这段话面前完全是站不住脚的。
我们可以剖析一下这段原文。奸奇自己不敢亲身探索只敢派手下,说明什么? 说明永恒之井对于奸奇来说就是未知的东西。根本不可能是奸奇的一部分。 试想一个人会惧怕自己的身体吗? 这段原文基本否定了永恒之井是属于奸奇的。
然后再来说说John frensh关于永恒之井的采访。 首先john french没有提到任何永恒之井属于奸奇的观点。甚至原文说的是: Tzeentch wanted to look into the Well of Eternity but would not risk to go himself, so sent one of his Daemons, which is actually part of him… and now Kairos Fateweaver knows more of the future than Tzeentch himself, while existing as part of him. 这句话石锤进入永恒之井会让奸奇有去无回,所以奸奇派了个大魔进去。 试想如果永恒之井就是奸奇的一部分,那奸奇就是本来就知道未来了,根本不用派大魔进去。而且永恒之井也根本不会伤害奸奇本身。
john french也提到永恒之井是碰巧(happens to)坐落于奸奇宫的中央。这句话在我的眼里算是直接推翻了永恒之井坐落于宫的中央所以属于奸奇的域的推论。毕竟我也不好意思说永恒之井碰巧是奸奇的一部分。 这B 格太低了。哈哈
lexicanum永恒之井原文: https://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Well_of_Eternity
John French采访: https://www.warhammer-community.com/2017/01/29/fear-of-the-future-john-french-ponders-the-fateweaver/

首先我们来看看永恒之井的原文:
The Well of Eternity is a mystical location within the Warp itself where it is situated at the very centre of reality. Thus, it existed in a place where time and space originated as well as ended. When the Chaos God Tzeentch, the Grand Sorcerer, desired to learn of the future, he travelled to the Well, where he sent his most powerful and trusted Lords of Change though none emerged from the currents within this site. An exasperated Tzeentch thus decided to cast his own vizier, Kairos into the Well of Eternity who miraculously survived and gained knowledge of events in the future.
这段话大概就是说,渴望了解未来的奸奇跋山涉水走到永恒之井面前。然后排出他手底下最强最受信任的大魔去永恒之井一探究竟,可是没有一个生还。知道Kairos出场,才奇迹般生还并且了解到了未来的时间。
很多人拿着永恒之井处于奸奇造的宫的中央,就说属于奸奇的领域,所以是奸奇的一部分。 这个推论在这段话面前完全是站不住脚的。
我们可以剖析一下这段原文。奸奇自己不敢亲身探索只敢派手下,说明什么? 说明永恒之井对于奸奇来说就是未知的东西。根本不可能是奸奇的一部分。 试想一个人会惧怕自己的身体吗? 这段原文基本否定了永恒之井是属于奸奇的。
然后再来说说John frensh关于永恒之井的采访。 首先john french没有提到任何永恒之井属于奸奇的观点。甚至原文说的是: Tzeentch wanted to look into the Well of Eternity but would not risk to go himself, so sent one of his Daemons, which is actually part of him… and now Kairos Fateweaver knows more of the future than Tzeentch himself, while existing as part of him. 这句话石锤进入永恒之井会让奸奇有去无回,所以奸奇派了个大魔进去。 试想如果永恒之井就是奸奇的一部分,那奸奇就是本来就知道未来了,根本不用派大魔进去。而且永恒之井也根本不会伤害奸奇本身。
john french也提到永恒之井是碰巧(happens to)坐落于奸奇宫的中央。这句话在我的眼里算是直接推翻了永恒之井坐落于宫的中央所以属于奸奇的域的推论。毕竟我也不好意思说永恒之井碰巧是奸奇的一部分。 这B 格太低了。哈哈
lexicanum永恒之井原文: https://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Well_of_Eternity
John French采访: https://www.warhammer-community.com/2017/01/29/fear-of-the-future-john-french-ponders-the-fateweaver/




















