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回复:求知识帝,当年在阿贾克斯IB和范德法特到底有什么过节?

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IB不是练过么。。VDV打得过他?


16楼2009-10-29 13:27
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    伊布 跆拳道 黑带


    IP属地:山西17楼2009-10-29 13:29
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      18楼2009-10-29 13:53
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        • 117.10.28.*
        据说啊,据说
        伊布曾经带着剪刀在更衣室里等范法


        19楼2009-10-29 13:56
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          楼上误解。剪刀事件-刚开始的时候伊布给米多替补,后来米多给伊布替补,伊布很傲。米多拿着剪刀在更衣室等待伊布,伊布打不过米多。
          伊布嫉妒范德法特的核心位置,又是队长,拿了金童,粉丝很多。所以伊布想打范德法特,但是范法的小弟要多一些,范法和斯内德,海亭加等人都是 “发小”,范法又比他们大,是带头大哥。伊布是外来户,奈何他们人多势众啊。
          后来媒体采访伊布,伊布都是极力贬低范德法特,肯定现在还记仇,哈哈。范法在国少队就和佩西弄过,这种事当然是家常便饭了,我估计他也是早就想弄伊布了/。当年在阿贾克斯,范法连科曼都不鸟一下,后来又是汉堡王,估计伊布肯定是吃亏了。


          20楼2010-09-29 22:16
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            关于当时的事件,还有一个比较腹黑的说法,就是拉伊奥伊指使之下,IB才那么做的。因为那样阿贾克斯必然就会卖掉他,而接手的,正好是888.
            因为03-04年的拉伊奥拉,那时他其实还是莫吉手下的经纪人,内德维德就是拉伊奥拉签过来的。
            此外,不妨联想一下去年IB是怎么走的?而今年的小巴,在3月份的时候签了拉伊奥拉作为经纪人,紧接着就爆出了AC米兰的球衣事件、梅阿查赛后摔球衣等事件......
            小巴签下拉伊奥拉,其实就说明他想走了。而小巴的所作所为,和当初为了离开阿贾克斯的IB,有异曲同工之“妙”......

            


            21楼2010-09-29 22:30
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              While the relationship with Mido has been somewhat patched up (they call each other occcasionally), the one with Rafael van der Vaart (24 yrs, captain in Hamburg) never was. He was the other young talent in Ajax who fought for the limelight with Zlatan, and their passionate rivalry would make them one of my favourite mini-OT'Ps in football. In the beginning coach Koeman had them share hotelrooms, hoping they'd turn out friends. They didn't, which was made painfully obvious after the Euros 04 when Sweden played a friendly against Holland (that defeated them on penalties in the quarter finals). It took Zlatan all of 5 minutes to injure van der Vaart to the point where he had to be carried off the pitch. This was proceeded by years of fighting at practises, with coach Koeman having to separate them, and reports on Zlatan's and the Dutch wonderkid's trouble with sharing the attention. Leo Beenhakker stated it plainly: "It was the classic scenario, with Rafael and Zlatan - two young players who turn into stars, early on. They fight about who gets to be on top".
              


              22楼2010-09-29 22:39
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                After the Sweden-Holland game, van der Vaart publically critized Zlatan: "He was crazy. He tried to injure me on purpose. You can't do that to a team mate." He was also hurt that Zlatan hadn't even turn to see whether he was OK. Zlatan on the other hand claimed the collision was unintentional and that van der Vaart was wrong to talk about his team mates to the press (Journalist after the game: "Do you want to talk about your problems with some of the teammates?" Zlatan: ""What problem? I don't have any problem. Do you have a problem?"). After this the relationship got worse - Zlatan told Koeman he wouldn't ever play for the same team as van der Vaart, and he and the other player had a huge fight in the dressing room, with Zlatan screaming "If you ever talk about me to the press again I'll break your neck".
                When he and Van der Vaart later met for the first time playing for different clubs, van der Vaart commented shortly: "Zlatan Ibrahimovic was never my friend. I'd think everybody knows this". Seeing as he actually threw a huge party when Ajax finally decided to cash in on Zlatan (it was all over Dutch press) I think it's safe to say everybody did.
                Van der Vaart is the young man in the stands looking like he's on a funeral during Zlatan's one-man-show against NAC Breda (Koeman was asked to comment: "His reaction wasn't the best. I don't think the footage should have been shown on the big screens, though, it'll just increase the rumours".)
                


                23楼2010-09-29 22:40
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                  Who is Mido, might you ask? Egyptian player Ahmed "Mido" Hossam (Tottenham) came to Ajax at the same time as Zlatan, was the same age, and just as talented. Instead of becoming rivals, they turned out friends - "they were a set piece in Amsterdam", according to a Swedish reporter - playing football and hanging out (Dutch Voetbal International described them as "a couple of troublemakers spending most of their time at the disco"). Oh, and all of you A/Z fans? So anyways, Mido was probably the only player coach Ronald Koeman had more trouble with than with Zlatan - he would later get kicked out from Roma and Marseille, as well as the national squad (after calling director Hassan Shehata an "ass"). Nowadays, he has settled in Tottenham where he's one of the key players. At the time, the boys' general attitude is best summed up by the following snippet, from an Ajax interview that took place just after Mido had gotten married:
                  Reporter: "Expectations for 2003?"
                  Zlatan: "We will win the title and the cup. And get as far as possible in the Champions League."
                  Mido: "I want to win the Golden Ball. Not of Africa, but of Europe. And for my personal life? No Zlatan, I don’t want to have children yet." (Aw, Zlatan and his early family planning.)
                  In another interview, Zlatan was asked about his and Mido's friendship, and said "Mido just got married. So I don't want to bother anymore." Next thing you knew, there were reports about the two of them falling out, screaming at each other on the pitch and fighting in the dressing room. Three months later, in March 2003, Koeman called for a press conference and told the press he was getting rid of Mido. "Mido has been too much trouble, there's been too many incidents. For example he's thrown a pair of scissors against Ibrahimovic's head". The following season Zlatan won the League on his own, and was voted best player in the team.
                  


                  24楼2010-09-29 22:42
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                    IP属地:安徽26楼2010-09-29 23:44
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                      上面的访谈内涵是:IB和那神马米多是基友,因爱生恨然后扔剪刀?


                      27楼2010-10-04 23:55
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                        28楼2010-10-05 00:02
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