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古代苏美人对行星贫瘠的认知水平

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引源文章《UNDERSTANDING PLANETS INANCIENT MESOPOTAMIA》
Writing was invented by Sumerians ca 3200 BC. Cuneiform1 tabletsof Sumerian period give us very interesting material but unfortu-nately no astronomical or astrological texts. Though some textshave been thought to originate from former periods, they have beenonly found in later copies, making dating extremely difficult. Theoldest existing texts about stars, one astrological and one astro-nomical, both come from the Old Babylonian period. Analysis ofreligious texts has led some scientists to suppose Semitic or evenWest-Semitic origin for the concept connecting stars and earthlyphenomena, because Akkadians (the term is hereby used to denotelinguistically close Semitic peoples – Babylonians, Assyrians andtheir predecessors) take a much more personal approach to godsthan Sumerians. On the other hand, the Akkadian use of Sumeriannames of constellations, stars, and planets weighs against this theory;however, such names could issue from the period when Semiteshad not yet accustomed enough to using the Sumerian-inventedcuneiform script for their own language, so Sumerian was used forwriting. It is possible that some sumerograms concerning stars havenever been pronounced in Sumerian, but only in Akkadian. Lateron, the symbols remained in use because of their shortness: e.g.the Sumerian name for the Scales is RIN2, which corresponds toAkkadian Zi-ba-nh-tu(m), so it can be written as a Sumerogramwith one sign instead of four signs for Akkadian. As another mat-ter, the interpretation of such different names can be difficult, butin this case it seems that in both languages, in the first place scaleswere meant, as Sumerian GIŠRIN2 and Akkadian girinnu both meanprimarily the most ordinary scales. An epithet of the Scales con-stellation, “Star of justice of Šama” (Reiner 1995: 4) can be consid-ered indirect proof – scales are a symbol of justice. Also in Greece,Virgo – which lies besides Scales – was connected to Dike, goddessof justice.2 In any case, to talk about planet names, we have to startfrom the Babylonians, not Sumerians, though we have to considerthe influence of Sumerian language and writing.The term Akkadian is used as a common name for the relatedSemitic languages Babylonian and Assyrian which can also be con-sidered dialects of the Akkadian language. As most contemporaryscientists consider the cuneiform script to have originally been usedfor Sumerian language, and the Sumerian language has no typo-logical relatives whatsoever (despite several claims by pseudo-sci-


IP属地:广西1楼2019-08-05 12:23回复
    现存泥板,有关天文学及相关的占星术,来自巴比伦时期。
    早前有块阿卡德语泥板故事《THE SEVEN EVIL SPIRITS》七神颂(某些书籍汉译《七妖围南纳》),大概1902年时,译者推测有个更古老的苏美语版。本来以为当作例证,至少证明苏美人对星体认知,多一个或两个(金星与火星)。
    结果,最新的考古发现,这则泥板故事根本没有更古老的苏美语版。
    这真是掉下一个台阶。
    对天文,除了太阳与月亮、星(星)以外,其他星体的认知,全来自巴比伦时期,甚至是晚期。
    In any case, to talk about planet names, we have to startfrom the Babylonians, not Sumerians, though we have to considerthe influence of Sumerian language and writing.
    就如引源文章中所说,谈论行星的名称?从巴比伦人开始,而不是从苏美人开始。
    骗子声称,苏美人天文很发达。于是拿个滚印图案放大,吹出十二天体这种不知廉耻的风凉话。讽刺的是,这么多泥板,没一块能显示出苏美人掌握这种天文认知。


    IP属地:广西2楼2019-08-05 13:18
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      2026-01-24 21:23:34
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      公元前7世纪左右,巴比伦人用几何学追踪木星
      巴比伦晚期,天文学可称得上有很大发展与认知。两河流域对星体认知,扩展到土星。
      也就仅此而已了。


      IP属地:广西3楼2019-08-05 13:26
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        对的,国内外学者也没几个认可西芹及其学说的,生编乱造牵强附会,不然他怎么会一辈子顶着个民科的帽子?


        IP属地:广西来自Android客户端4楼2019-09-04 16:21
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          我有一个问题请教楼主和各位大佬,如何看待苏美人的尼尼微常数


          来自Android客户端5楼2019-10-14 00:15
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            尼尼微常数是在古代苏美尔人居住过的埃及库云底亚克山的山洞里发现的,它是一道计算题70连续7次乘以60的积,即165955200000000。在计算技术最发达的古希腊也只能计算出5位数,可见距今3500多年历史的苏美尔人已是个智力相当发达的民族。


            来自Android客户端6楼2019-10-14 00:22
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              其实我数学不好……不过计算器还是会用的。
              “一个回归年相当于365.2422个阳历日,如果用2268000000天除以此数,便得出6249578个回归年”
              268000000除365.2422=6209578.192224228
              “一个回归年相当于365.2422个阳历日,如果用2268000000天除以此数,便得出6249578个回归年。再用2268000000天除以这个回归年数,得出一个回归年为365.242211天,与我们今天所用的365.242199这个更精确的数字相比,”
              2268000000除6249578=362.9045033120636
              问题很多。


              IP属地:广西7楼2019-10-14 02:52
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                然而,有那么多两河流域的考古文物的证明怎么解释??我相信西琴的学说不完善对文字的解读也不那么准确,但我更相信考古文物。。。毕竟地球上太多人类无法完成的“神迹”存在了


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