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绝大多数型号MIG-23型号加速性能比最早期F-16还差,更何况F-15

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The MiG-23 with its wings set at the swept angle of 45 deg, had inferior acceleration characteristics and was less maneuvrable close to the maximum operationally permitted overload G limits than the F-15.
http://backfiretu-22m.tripod.com/id11.html
This was confirmed by the Israelies too when they obtained a Syrian MiG-23MLD that was flown to Israel by a Syrian defector and tested its flying characteristics, they were impressed with the quick acceleration the MiG-23MLD had, they even claimed that the MiG-23 has better acceleration performance than the F-16 and F-18for example, the F-16 can accelerate from 600km/h to 1000km/h at the altitude of 1000 meters in just 15 seconds, while the MiG-23 can accelerate from 600km/h to 900km/h in just 12 seconds.
http://backfiretu-22m.tripod.com/id15.html
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The MiG-23 with its wings set at the swept angle of 45 deg, had inferior acceleration characteristics and was less maneuvrable close to the maximum operationally permitted overload G limits than the F-15.
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这上面说的清清楚楚,MIG-23的加速性能比起F-15就是垃圾


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the F-16 can accelerate from 600km/h to 1000km/h at the altitude of 1000 meters in just 15 seconds, while the MiG-23 can accelerate from 600km/h to 900km/h in just 12 seconds.


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The Sapfir-23E (izdelie 323E).
The Sapfir-23E radar itself represents a coherent pulse Doppler system and it allows:
-search and track of enemy targets in all-aspect at any weather condition, day/night, natural interference (earth /clouds) and active/passive jamming.
-target recognition in co-op. with the SRZO-2 (friend-foe) interrogator
-single target track, measuring target range, azimuth and angular positions.
-search and track of targets emitting heat, the radar antenna controlled by IRST sensor.
-to form control signals for the SAU-23A autopilot in co-op. with LASUR-M (Vozdukh-1M) and RSBN-6S (ROMB-1K) systems, e.g. giving the "break-away" signal...
-to form control signals for launching guided A-A missiles, provides continuous illumination of the target for the RGS-23 seeker, to form control signals during the gun aiming and ensures launching of unguided missiles in the synchronous/asynchronous mode.
-to indicate RADAR/IRST information on the SEI indicator and one-way command symbols on the symbol indicator mounted on the gun sight ASP-23DE.
The Sapfir-23E uses the mono-pulse technique to track a single target. Such a radar system consists of two parabolic antennas (moving, fixed) and the four-cone T/R element. In this system, each returning radar pulse provides target pointing information by being focused at the antenna onto a group of four-cone T/R elements.
Description of the tracking process: After pushing the „Zachvat“ button, the radar proceeds an additional search in the antenna position where the target has been found. During this additional search the scan zone shrinks to ±8º in azimuth and ±52` in elevation. If the target signal is present, the antenna performs angular tracking of the target and the radar range-finder is switched on. The range-finder searches the target in the 9km range zone. If the target is within the 9km zone, the antenna performs range tracking of the target. The SEI indicator changes its appearance. It is now showing the crosshair and the circle guidance indicator instead of selection lines (range zone). The radar is tracking the target. The tracking principle is based on summing the elevation, azimuth and the reference signal taken from the 4-cone receiver.


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The Sapfir-23E radar is linked with following other systems.
-the IRST sensor TP-23-1
-the analogue computer AVM-23
-the indicator SEI
-the optical gun-sight ASP-23DE
-the gun camera PAU-473-2
-the radar emission receiver SPO-10
-the IFF system SRZO-2M
-the transponder SO-69 (SOD-57)
-the short range navigation system RSBN-6S
-the radio-telemetric system ARL-SM
-the autopilot SAU-23A
-the gyro-platform SKV-2N-2
-the radio altimeter RV-4A
-the angle of attack probe DUA-3M
-the angle of slide probe DUS-3-1
-the true air-speed probe DVS-7 (DVS-10)
-the barometric altitude probe DV-30
-the SARH missile with the RGS-23 and the coupling block "RBS"
-the IR guided missile with the TGS-23 and the coupling block "TBS"
-the A2G radio-commanded missile CH-23M with pod "DELTA NG"
Basic data of the Sapfir-23E system.
The S-23E radar contains of 46 parts weighting total 641kg. Main parts:
The two-mirror cassegrain antenna: 78kg
Impulse transmitter: 160kg
KNP transmitter: 160kg (continuous wave illuminator for the R-23R)
AVM-23 analog computer: 10.2kg
Radar max. scan limits in azimuth: ±52º
Radar max. scan limits in elevation: +43º, -38º
Antenna scan coverage in azimuth: ±30º
Antenna scan coverage in elevation: 8.5º to 12º
Scan cycle: 3.5sec
Pulse width: 4 or 1 µsec
PRF: ~1KHz
Peak power of impulse transmitter: 70kW
Power output of KNP transmitter: 270W
Time to ready: 6min
Antenna gyro-stabilization
Pitch 30/-35º
Roll 70/-70º
Radar self check time: max. 100s
Target altitude: 40-25000m
Target speed: up to 2500km/h. 2.35M
Typical range of the Sapfir-23E against fighter/bomber sized target
Detailed description of the Sapfir-23E radar modes.
The radar scan modes BSV, BSV-delta H4, BSV-delta H1, SMV, MV are switched automatically according to aircraft altitude Hs (DV-30 barometric probe) and the antenna position ”Delta H” switch. The scan mode BSV-SC can be selected manually by the pilot with the radar mode switch "BSV SC-R-BSMV switched to the BSV-SC position.
e.g. the aircraft is flying with its nose below the horizon (descending), but the antenna bearing is above the horizon. At altitude of 1500m the BSV mode changes to SMV automatically. If the antenna bearing is below the horizon at the same conditions (descend flight), at altitude of 1500m the BSV-deltaH1 mode switches to the MV automatically and vice-versa.
The BSV-SC mode hasn’t altitude limitations, the delta H switch doesn’t have an effect on it.
When the switch NAVED AVT/RUCHN is set to AVT, the radar mode selection is done automatically by the GCI datalink (ARL-SM). The radar scan patterns under GCI are better optimized due to known PPS/ZPS aspect. The one-way commands from GCI are displayed on special symbol indicator mounted on the ASP-23DE gunsight. Pilot can interrupt the GCI datalink anytime setting the switch to RUCHN.
The S-23E modes operating conditions.
The mode BSV for high/medium altitudes and all-aspect intercepts, to engage targets flying higher than the Mig-23. (Hc>Hs), pulse width ~4 µsec(search), pulse width ~1 µsec(track), PRF 1Khz, Beam width in search 2,5°. Indicated range scale on SEI is 60km(search), indicated range scale on SEI is 30km(track). The maximal target altitude surplus is 6km. (delta H switch).
The mode BSV-delta H4 uses one half of the PRF compared to the BSV mode. The mode BSV-delta H4 for high/medium altitudes, rear-aspect intercepts, to engage targets flying lower than the Mig-23 on the earth background (LD/SD mode) (Hc<Hs). Pulse width ~4 µsec(search), pulse width ~1 µsec(track), Beam width 2,5°(search). The max. altitude deficit of the target is -4km. (delta H switch).
The mode BSV-delta H1 differs to the BSV-deltaH4 by using the pulse width of 1 µsec (search, track). The mode BSV-delta H1 for high/medium altitudes, rear-aspect intercepts, This mode is used to engage targets flying lower than the Mig-23 on the earth background (LD/SD mode) (Hc<Hs). The signal is further processed, filtered out in the “differential clutter filter” (DKP)
The SMV mode for medium/low altitudes and all-aspect intercepts, to engage targets flying higher than the Mig-23. (Hc>Hs). Indicated range scale on SEI is 30km(search, track). The pulse width of ~1 µsec(search, track)
The MV mode is used to engage targets flying lower than the Mig-23 on the earth background. (LD/SD mode) (Hc<Hs). It`s used only for rear-aspect intercepts, pulse width ~1 µsec(search, track), Beam width in search 1,5°. The MV mode uses the „SDC with external coherence“ technique to compare Doppler shifts between the target and earth background. The antenna scan zone is locked in azimuth and elevation.
The BSV-SC mode is for high/medium altitudes and all-aspect intercepts, to engage targets flying higher than the Mig-23. (Hc>Hs) . The radar mode exploits the same form of doppler processing of the received signal as in the MV mode, but on the background of radio-reflective clouds. The antenna scan zone isn`t locked as in the MV mode.
(Hs- altitude of the Mig-23, Hc- target altitude)
The Sapfir-23E controls and others in the cockpit of the Mig-23MF.
The panel "Block34" contains:


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The main radar operating switch "BSV-SC-R-BSMV" chooses between two radar main operating modes. The position BSMV switches among BSV, BSV-H4, BSV-H1, SMV and MV. In the BSV-SC position the radar switches between the BSV-SC and MV modes
The SIST switch has 5 operating modes. „R, T-R, T, T-phi0, NAV.
The „R“ mode determines the onboard radar as a main targeting system. Also during ground attack the radar can measure distance to the target.
The „T-R“ mode means cooperation between the radar and the IRST, if the radar is jammed the IRST can pick up the target distance and vice-versa.
The „T“ mode prioritizes the IRST as a main targeting system. Also this mode is used in case of radar damage or hidden approach. The S-23E radar works in so called quasi-scan mode. The radar antenna is slaved to IRST sensor and is providing the data for the launch of R-23T.
In the „T-phi0“ mode the R-23T missile seeker is caged to the axis of the plane.
The „NAV“ mode is for navigation flights under RSBN, or “return to base” command (VOZVRAT). The HUD display is showing “K”(curse), “G”(inclination) symbols, which the pilot has to follow.
The switch IZL-EKV-VYK impulse transmitter (emit/equivalent/off)
The switch NAVED-AVT-RUCHN, the instrument guiding by datalink ARL-SM on/off
The switch MSKC-PPS-ZPS, low-speed target engagements (<500km/h)/front/rear hemisphere. If no jamming occurs, the MSKC switch position allows the radar to detect targets with any closure speeds.
The panel „Block95„ contains the one-way command symbol indicator on the gunsight ASP-23DE


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K- ASP-23DE self control indicator
PPS- front hemisphere intercept
AVT-the radar range-finder is automatically controlled by ARL-SM
100,60,30- range to target
F- afterburner ignite
<- target on left
I- target straight
>- target on right
!- target change
A- the „zachvat“ command.
G- the “Gorka” maneuver
PR- the „Pusk razreshen“ command
T- end of interception, return to base,
OT- the „Otvorot“ –„break-away“ command
PD- radar range-finder malfunction
K- ASP self control system
The panel „Block24


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The switch “STROB/VYKL”. In the position “STROB”, target selection impulses (lines) for the RL are generated on the SEI. In the position “VYK”, target selection impulses (lines) for the IRST are generated.
The potentiometer “US T”: amplifies video-signal from the IRST, used when jamming is encountered.
The potentiometer “US ”: amplifies radar signal in the “BSV-delta H, MV” used when jamming is encountered.
The potentiometer switch “delta H”: antenna scan zone presets in elevation(+6km/-4km), The antenna scan zone/radar range-finder is also controlled through the potentiometer located on the „POM“ throttle
The joystick/switch “ZONA R ,STROB T, SBROS” controls radar scan zone in azimuth, controls target selection impulses (lines) for IRST in azimuth and elevation. The SBROS switch position is used to cancel the RL and the IRST lock.
The switch APKH/PPKH serves to switch-on the radar protective circuits against active/passive jamming.


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Detail description of the lookdown/shootdown capability of the S-23E.
1.
When the MV radar mode has been selected, the returned signal is further processed in the Pulse-doppler channel of the Sapfir-23E. At first the signal is led to the linear receiver, where it is amplified and sorted out by the amplitude detector. Then it is routed to the 49 multi-channels Doppler filter (a comb filter), where the selection of moving target takes place.
The doppler shift of the radar is given by:
Fpd= Fd-nxFp =2x(Vr/c)xFo-nxFp
Fpd-doppler shift of pulse radar
Fd-doppler shift cw radar
c- speed of light
Vr-radial velocity component
Fo-source signal frequency of pulses
Fp-pulse repetition frequency
n-integer from 0 to infinite
If the pulse repetition frequency „Fp“and the source signal frequency „Fo“ is constant, the amount of doppler shift depends only by the component of radial velocity. Considering that the radial velocity can change in a wide range, the doppler shift of the clutter (earth background) is taken as a reference (coherent) signal to process the doppler filtering. Therefore the filtering technique itself is called the „СДЦ (селекции движущихся целей с внешней когерентностью)“- The moving target selection with external coherence.
Then the doppler shift of the radar is given by:
Fdp=Fdc-Fdt-nxFp=2xFo/cx(Vrc-Vrt))-nxFp
Fdc- doppler shift of the clutter
Fdt- doppler shift of the target
Vrc- radial velocity of the clutter
Vrt- radial velocity of the target
There are operational limitations such as limitations upon altitude of use or so-called blind-speeds. To operate correctly the SDC with external coherence technique needs to synchronize the target signal with the clutter phase. To simplify this task, the clutter signal received by the radar sidelobes in the second/third scan cycle is used to process the doppler filter.
To deal with the “blind speeds” the radar is changing the pulse repetition frequency during each scan line. More than 90% of “blind speeds” are covered, what ensures sufficient target detection.


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2. At higher altitudes the SDC with external coherence technique becomes ineffective, the radar uses the BSV-deltaH1 and the BSV-delta H4 mode. Both the BSV-deltaH modes use a technique called the Single-beam space-time selection. This filtering technique makes use of the difference between the spatial target location and the earth surface segment illuminated, which distances to the radar are the same. By utilizing the antenna high spatial selectivity it is possible to separate the target signal from the clutter. The advantages over the SDC with external coherence technique are no limitations in scanned sector and the target heading. Its disadvantage is the strong relationship between detection range and the target altitude. Lower target altitude means smaller detection range. The detection range equals:
D =k x Hc (km)
D- detection range
k- coefficient given by the antenna directivity pattern, characteristics of the surface background, target RCS and the surplus altitude over the target.
Hc- target altitude.


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When illuminating the surface by a high directive antenna, the returned signal from the earth comes a bit later compared to the target signal. Then it is possible to separate the target signal from the clutter by using common methods of processing. The power of the clutter signal depends on the distance to the earth by a given antenna bearing as shown on the picture.
There are three specific regions.
-The first sector is evoked by the antenna sidelobes, which receive signals directly from beneath the plane. It is also here possible to separate the target signal from the clutter, because the target signal coming from the mainlobe uses to be stronger compared to the clutter signal coming from the sidelobes.
-In the second region the ground clutter can be filtered out easily, the power of the target signal greatly exceeds the clutter received by radar mainlobe.
-In the third region the ground clutter exceeds the target signal due to strong ground echoes received by the mainlobe. There is no possibility to detect the target signal.
The radar suffers from the clutter even more by illuminating the surface at very low elevation angles. Using of the high directive antenna will result in intense backscattering, the ground clutter increase in beam width. To filter the ground clutter the BSV- delta H1 mode uses the DKP „the differential clutter filter“ which processes the return signal further. The DKP filter operates only while the target is tracked in the BSV-delta H1 mode.


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they even claimed that the MiG-23 has better acceleration performance than the F-16 and F-18for example, the F-16 can accelerate from 600km/h to 1000km/h at the altitude of 1000 meters in just 15 seconds, while the MiG-23 can accelerate from 600km/h to 900km/h in just 12 seconds.
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以色列的F-16在80年代都是些F-16A/B,是最垃圾的F-16,就是这批用F100-PW-200的F-16都能在15秒中从600加速到1000km/h;
而MIG-23MLD是最牛逼的MIG-23型号,除了苏联,只有保加利亚和叙利亚装备,换了大推力R35-300发动机,推重比也是最高的,也只能在12秒钟从600加速到900km/h,换算一下,顶多14秒从600加速到900km/h,也就比F-16A/B快一点点。


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The S-23E cooling system
The high-power transmitters (klystron tubes) are cooled by “closed cycle” liquid system. The working temperature of the liquid “antifriz 65” is +55°C. The cooling system is engaged immediately after the radar is switched on. The front radar bay is cooled with “ram” air. The flow volume is 650-800kg/h. The air-cooling system maintains operating temperature of 55-60°C inside the radar bay. If the temperature exceeds limit, the cooling slots are closed.


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The fire control system of the Mig-23ML contains:
-the N003E coherent pulse Doppler multimode radar
-the analogue computer AVM-23
-the IRST TP-26Sh
-the HUD sight ASP-17MLE
-the gun camera PAU-473-5
Other system interconnections are: ARL-SML, SRZO-2M, SPO-10, A-031, SAU-23AM, SKV-2N-2M, DUA-M-1, DVS-7, DV-30, RSBN-6S, SO-69, weapon system with guided/unguided missiles/guns/bombs.
The fire control system/radar system ensures:
1. target acquisition in all-aspect at any weather condition, day/night
2. identification friend or foe
3. tracking of single target in head-on/pursuit, measuring range and angular position
4. all-aspect engagements of air targets at altitudes =>1.5 km with the R-23R and rear-aspect engagement with the R-23T,R-3S,R-13M,R-60. (Hc <>= Hs)
5. rear-aspect engagements of targets flying at low altitudes using the R-23T,R-3S,R-13M,R-60. (Hc > Hs)
6. rear-aspect engagements of small/big targets flying at low altitudes using the R-23R, R-23T,R-3S,R-13M,R-60. (Hc < Hs)
7. rear-aspect engagements of maneuvering targets using asynchronous aiming methods and gun weapons.
8. detection and engagements of low-speed targets
9. giving command signals to fire, end of intercept,......when manual/automatic(ARL-SM) flight controls.
10. giving command signals for ready/launch of R-23R,R-23T,R-3S,R-13M,R-60.
11. providing STT mode for the R-23R.
12. giving the range information to the ASP HUD-sight when gun firing at air targets.
13. giving the range information to the ASP HUD-sight when gun firing at ground targets and bombing.
(Hs- altitude of the Mig-23, Hc- target altitude)
The N-003E contains of 44 parts weighting total 475kg. Main parts:
Antenna : 56kg
Impulse transmitter: 98kg (klystron type tubes)
KNP transmitter: 48.5kg (providing STT for R-23R)
Parametric amplifier: 8kg
AVM-23 analogue computer : 8.2kg
Radar scan limits in azimuth: ±56º
Radar scan limits in elevation: +52º, -42º
Peak power: 40kW
Basic performance data of the N003E:
The radar detects targets at altitudes from 50 to 25000 m flying at speeds from 500 to 2500km/h.
The range in the “BSV” mode:
-search range against Tu-16 is 72km
-track range against Tu-16 is 52km
-search range against Mig-21 is 53km
-track range against Mig-21 is 35km
The range in the “MV” mode:
-search range against Tu-16 is 24km
-track range against Tu-16 is 14km
-search range against Mig-21 is 19km
-track range against Mig-21 is 10,5km
The range in the “BSV-delta H” mode (when Hs=2Hc):
-search range against Tu-16 flying at 2.5-5km is 54km
-track range against Tu-16 flying at 2.5-5km is 39.5km
Control panels in the cockpit:


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The weapon system selector switch “SIST” with modes:
-RL (BSV, BSV - Delta H4, BSV - Delta H1, SMV, MV)
-BS (I BS, II BS, III BS)
-T (T I, T II, T III, T – Phi 0-I, T – Phi 0-II)
-NVG
The switch IZL-EKV-VYK, impulse transmitter (emit/equivalent/off)
The switch NAVED-AVT-RUCHN, the GCI datalink ARL-SML on/off
The switch MSKC-PPS-ZPS, low-speed target engagements/front/rear hemisphere
The switch PU-VYK, parametric amplifier ON-OFF
The modes BSV, BSV-delta H4, BSV-delta H1, SMV, MV are switched automatically according to aircraft altitude Hs (DV-30 barometric sensor) and the antenna position ”Delta H” switch. The modes I BS, II BS, III BS must be switched manually. When the switch NAVED AVT/RUCHN is set to AVT, the radar mode selection is done automatically by GCI command link (ARL-SML). The radar scan patterns under GCI are better optimized due to PPS/ZPS aspect. The one-way commands from GCI are displayed on special symbol indicator on the HUD sight. Pilot can interrupt the GCI anytime setting the switch to RUCHN.
The mode BSV for high/medium altitudes, all-aspect intercepts (Hc<>=Hs), pulse width ~4 µsec, PRF 1Khz, switching altitude Hs>4,5km, Beam width in search 2,5°. Scan patters depend on NAVED AVT/RUCH switch position. Beam width in STT 1.7°.
The modes BSV-delta H4, BSV-delta H1 for high/medium altitudes are useful for searching targets on earth background not using the Doppler shifts (MTI). For all-aspect intercepts, switching altitude is 4.5km>Hs>1,5km. It uses half/third PRF compared to BSV mode. The “differential compensator device” (DKP) filters false ground signals out. For greater search range the parametric amplifier can be switched on. The receiver sensitivity gains of 5-10% (dB/mW).
The modes BS (I BS, II BS, III BS) for high/medium altitudes are used for all-aspect intercepts (Hs<>=Hc) in case of false targets (clouds) and for picking up targets on earth background by using reference coherent signal received by radar side-lobes. The “III BS” mode has the largest search range of 65km, the “I BS” the smallest one of 27km. The most used mode is the “II BS” with 45km search range. The "III BS" mode works only as a search mode. The FFT Doppler filtering techniques are used to select moving targets flying on the earth background. The so-called “blind speeds” are overcome by changing PRF pulses during each scan line. More than 90% of “blind speeds” are covered, what ensures good MTI.
The mode SMV for medium/low altitudes, only rear-aspect intercepts (Hs<Hc), The switching altitude is Hs<1.5km, pulse width ~1 µsec, PRF 1Khz. The scan patters depend on NAVED AVT/RUCH switch position.
The mode MV is used to engage targets flying at low altitudes on the earth background. It is only for rear-aspect intercepts (Hs>Hc), The switching altitude Hs<1.5km, switch “Delta H”<0, pulse width ~1 µsec, Beam width in search 2,5°. The MV mode uses the MTI based on Doppler shifts.
The modes TP (T I, T II, T III, T-phi 0-I, T-phi 0-II) are used in case of radar damage, jamming or hidden approach. The device TP-26Sh is used for target searching/tracking. Leading the aircraft into the target area is done via ARL-SML/Voice commands.
The search scan pattern in mode “T I“ is 60º in azimuth and 15º in elevation.
The search scan pattern in mode “T II” is 15º in azimuth and 6º in elevation.
The mode “T III” is automatically switched if the target is acquired in the “T II” mode. The “T III” mode has different parameters (target selection impulses-lines) compared to T II/T I.
If the target is acquired by IRST, the N003E radar switches to quasi-search mode. The radar antenna is slaved to IRST sensor and is providing the data for the launch of R-23T. The HUD brightness (IRST signal) can be set via the “USIL T” switch.
The modes (T-phi 0-I, T-phi 0-II) are used when radar activity isn`t required. The R-23T missile seaker is slaved to the IRST.
The mode NVG is used for navigation flights under RSBN, or “return to base” commands (VOZVRAT). The HUD display is showing “K”(curse), “G”(inclination) symbols which the pilot has to follow.
The ARL-SML symbol indicator shows following commands on the “ASP17MLE”.


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