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Good one dear anon!
So let me understand your logic here. Klaus is a mature man (sure it is not like he has tantrums like a five year old every five minutes…only every five seconds lol) and he needs a mature woman. Ok I agree.
So he is a thousand years old man and he needs a mature woman. Now Caroline is 18 so she can’t be that. But Camille that is how old exactly? 24? Compared to his age she is definitely the mature person that can stand next to him. Ok sure.I
Good one dear anon!
So let me understand your logic here. Klaus is a mature man (sure it is not like he has tantrums like a five year old every five minutes…only every five seconds lol) and he needs a mature woman. Ok I agree.
So he is a thousand years old man and he needs a mature woman. Now Caroline is 18 so she can’t be that. But Camille that is how old exactly? 24? Compared to his age she is definitely the mature person that can stand next to him. Ok sure.I
Should I start analyzing about the vampire mentality and the fact that human maturity cannot follow that logic? In that case Caroline’s vampire instincts and perspective are not mature enough but Camille’s human view point is? Ok sure.
Caroline is immature. Right. Because if she was a mature woman she would be able to survive abuse and compulsion rape (Damon), she would be able to earn her way, fight and prove to anyone that she can be a vampire, she would be able to show her mother that she is not a monster (through actions not words), she would be able to control her bloodlust like no other vampire, she would be able to help a new werewolf transition even though that could kill her, she would be able to live through multiple torture sessions, she would be able to stand and survive when her father would torture her and then she would forgive him and then would see him dying while she would constantly act with grace; she would be able to support her friends while putting her life on the line each and every time; she would be able to see good in Klaus when she knows that he is a psychotic sadistic mass murderer that has been torturing all the people she loved (including her), she would give Klaus a chance to gain her respect when he was going to sacrifice her and when he killed Elena, Jenna, Carol, thousand more and turned her boyfriend into a mindless slave and then exiled him. Caroline would be mature if she would still have humanity in her, if she would still care for emotionless Elena that tried to harm her mother and kill her, is she would still try to keep a much older vampire like Stefan in control. She would be a mature woman if she was one of those people that when hardships come along they try to keep their normalcy and go on with their lives, even laugh, have fun and doing silly things that make them smile and make others smile too.I
Caroline is immature. Right. Because if she was a mature woman she would be able to survive abuse and compulsion rape (Damon), she would be able to earn her way, fight and prove to anyone that she can be a vampire, she would be able to show her mother that she is not a monster (through actions not words), she would be able to control her bloodlust like no other vampire, she would be able to help a new werewolf transition even though that could kill her, she would be able to live through multiple torture sessions, she would be able to stand and survive when her father would torture her and then she would forgive him and then would see him dying while she would constantly act with grace; she would be able to support her friends while putting her life on the line each and every time; she would be able to see good in Klaus when she knows that he is a psychotic sadistic mass murderer that has been torturing all the people she loved (including her), she would give Klaus a chance to gain her respect when he was going to sacrifice her and when he killed Elena, Jenna, Carol, thousand more and turned her boyfriend into a mindless slave and then exiled him. Caroline would be mature if she would still have humanity in her, if she would still care for emotionless Elena that tried to harm her mother and kill her, is she would still try to keep a much older vampire like Stefan in control. She would be a mature woman if she was one of those people that when hardships come along they try to keep their normalcy and go on with their lives, even laugh, have fun and doing silly things that make them smile and make others smile too.I
Yeah Caroline would be a mature person if she did all those stuff. Hold it. Wait! Holly wackamole she did all those things! What a shocker!
All those that know my blog know that I am a big klaroline fan but also most of all a Klaus fan. I like Caroline but I am not that crazy about her either. I don’t know what they are going to do with Camille on the new show (I don’t plan to watch) and I don’t know if they are going to show a love story between Klaus and her (who am I kidding of course they will) and maybe Camille is a prime example of maturity. Maybe she is even Klaus better other half. She could be or she could not.
But the fact that someone doesn’t like Klaroline or Caroline’s character doesn’t mean that their arguments should be unfounded.
You can find a thousand reasons for not liking Klaroline and as a fan you could want and like different things for Klaus’s character. But ignoring the facts the show had given so far is not the way to support your opinions.I
All those that know my blog know that I am a big klaroline fan but also most of all a Klaus fan. I like Caroline but I am not that crazy about her either. I don’t know what they are going to do with Camille on the new show (I don’t plan to watch) and I don’t know if they are going to show a love story between Klaus and her (who am I kidding of course they will) and maybe Camille is a prime example of maturity. Maybe she is even Klaus better other half. She could be or she could not.
But the fact that someone doesn’t like Klaroline or Caroline’s character doesn’t mean that their arguments should be unfounded.
You can find a thousand reasons for not liking Klaroline and as a fan you could want and like different things for Klaus’s character. But ignoring the facts the show had given so far is not the way to support your opinions.I
I was the first one to say that they have reduced Caroline’s character into a love object for the past two seasons (it is a writing theme in TVD and trust me when I say that it will be in TO too.) After a point there has been no progress when it came to Caroline as a person, as a woman and as a vampire. TVD has been reduced into a shipping quarrel and has sacrificed its characters in that shipping war (Klaus included.) But that doesn’t change that each and every character through the years has shown some characteristics.
You don’t like Caroline for Klaus? Good. You don’t like Caroline as a character? I am with you okay. But lack of maturity was never one of Caroline’s shortcomings. Sure she can have her shallow moments from time to time. She is imperfect; She can be irritating, annoying and bossy. Most of the times she doesn’t know how to butt out from other peoples lives. She speaks too much. She is a control freak. She can be neurotic and to care mostly for her love life like there is nothing else in her world. She might turn dark in the future. She might lose her way.
But she is still a very young woman that had to learn how to survive and smile through it. She is handling herself like a trooper and she is always there for those that she cares about. Sure she can have her ditzy moments and she can care about prom and high school dreams. Does that make her immature or shows that she tries to remain positive and normal when her whole life is turning upside down every week?
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You don’t like Caroline for Klaus? Good. You don’t like Caroline as a character? I am with you okay. But lack of maturity was never one of Caroline’s shortcomings. Sure she can have her shallow moments from time to time. She is imperfect; She can be irritating, annoying and bossy. Most of the times she doesn’t know how to butt out from other peoples lives. She speaks too much. She is a control freak. She can be neurotic and to care mostly for her love life like there is nothing else in her world. She might turn dark in the future. She might lose her way.
But she is still a very young woman that had to learn how to survive and smile through it. She is handling herself like a trooper and she is always there for those that she cares about. Sure she can have her ditzy moments and she can care about prom and high school dreams. Does that make her immature or shows that she tries to remain positive and normal when her whole life is turning upside down every week?
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Obviously many people can have different opinions and perspectives even to what maturity means as an idea. But in this case maybe dear anon you should go through your facts one more time.
Because Caroline’s character has been shown to the TVD audience for 4 years. Camille’s for how much exactly? 10 minutes? Less? And in that time you could compare and contrast and get this result?
What Camille is or is not will be shown in the future for the TO audience. But what Caroline is has already been shown in the show for years.
And in all honestly maturity is not a way of showing yourself to the outside world but also a way to handle the world. And Caroline has been through hell and that can only give to a person a bitter taste of life and mature them instantly and yet Caroline is still there laughing and having an open heart. She is a survivor. Is that not mature enough for you? No? Too bad. Maybe Camille will meet your standards. Who knows maybe she won’t be a damsel in distress and will be a fine mature version for Klaus. But let me just tell you this. When you want a woman to be mature only in order to get her to be a perfect love object for a man then obviously you don’t really care about how mature her character really is but about how she could be one more shiny accessory for a ship. And in that case maturity has nothing to do with it.
Over and out :DI
Because Caroline’s character has been shown to the TVD audience for 4 years. Camille’s for how much exactly? 10 minutes? Less? And in that time you could compare and contrast and get this result?
What Camille is or is not will be shown in the future for the TO audience. But what Caroline is has already been shown in the show for years.
And in all honestly maturity is not a way of showing yourself to the outside world but also a way to handle the world. And Caroline has been through hell and that can only give to a person a bitter taste of life and mature them instantly and yet Caroline is still there laughing and having an open heart. She is a survivor. Is that not mature enough for you? No? Too bad. Maybe Camille will meet your standards. Who knows maybe she won’t be a damsel in distress and will be a fine mature version for Klaus. But let me just tell you this. When you want a woman to be mature only in order to get her to be a perfect love object for a man then obviously you don’t really care about how mature her character really is but about how she could be one more shiny accessory for a ship. And in that case maturity has nothing to do with it.
Over and out :DI
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是的如果芭比是一个成熟的女人，她应该能够做到以上所有事情。等等，她不是已经做到了吗！我和我的小伙伴们惊呆了！
博主是一个KC粉，但大部分却是一个大K粉。我喜欢芭比，但我对她没有那么痴迷。我不知道在新剧中，他们对卡密有怎样的安排（我也不想看了），我也不知道他们是不是想要在大K和卡密之间展现一段爱情故事（我开谁的心呢，他们当然会了），也许卡密是一个成熟的优先的例子。也许她是大K更好的另一半。她也许会，也许不会。但事实是有的不喜欢Klaroline或是Caroline的角色的人不代表他们的论点就是不成立的。
你可以找到一千个理由不喜欢Klaroline，作为一个粉丝，你可以喜欢大K这个角色身上的不同的东西。但是忽视这部剧到现在为止所给出的这些事实，不是支持你的观点的正确方法。I
博主是一个KC粉，但大部分却是一个大K粉。我喜欢芭比，但我对她没有那么痴迷。我不知道在新剧中，他们对卡密有怎样的安排（我也不想看了），我也不知道他们是不是想要在大K和卡密之间展现一段爱情故事（我开谁的心呢，他们当然会了），也许卡密是一个成熟的优先的例子。也许她是大K更好的另一半。她也许会，也许不会。但事实是有的不喜欢Klaroline或是Caroline的角色的人不代表他们的论点就是不成立的。
你可以找到一千个理由不喜欢Klaroline，作为一个粉丝，你可以喜欢大K这个角色身上的不同的东西。但是忽视这部剧到现在为止所给出的这些事实，不是支持你的观点的正确方法。I
我是第一个说在前两季里他们把芭比置身于一个爱情关系而削弱了芭比的性格的人（这是TVD的一个写作主题，相信我，这也会是TO的主题）。在那之后，芭比作为一个人，作为一个女人，作为一个吸血鬼已经没有什么进步了。TVD已经被削弱成了一个“shipping(楼主不知道怎么翻)”的争吵了，而且在这场战争中，已经牺牲掉了他们的角色了，（包括大K）。但是这不能改变的一个事情就是，在这一年里，每一个人物都表现了他们一定的性格。
你不喜欢芭比和大K？很好。你不喜欢芭比这个角色？我无所谓。但是不成熟，绝对不是芭比的缺点之一。当然这傻丫头会时不时的肤浅一下。她不是完美的。她会很烦躁，很烦人，很跋扈。大多是时候她不知道怎样不介入别人的生活，她话太多，她是控制狂，她会很神经质的大部分关心她的爱情生活，好像在她的世界里就没有别的东西了。未来她可能会走向黑暗，也许会失去她的方向。I
你不喜欢芭比和大K？很好。你不喜欢芭比这个角色？我无所谓。但是不成熟，绝对不是芭比的缺点之一。当然这傻丫头会时不时的肤浅一下。她不是完美的。她会很烦躁，很烦人，很跋扈。大多是时候她不知道怎样不介入别人的生活，她话太多，她是控制狂，她会很神经质的大部分关心她的爱情生活，好像在她的世界里就没有别的东西了。未来她可能会走向黑暗，也许会失去她的方向。I
但是她仍然是一个非常年轻的女人，不得不学习如何生存并微笑面对。她像一个骑兵一样的应对自己，总在她所关心的人的身边。当然她会有神经兮兮的时候，关心舞会和高中梦想。那是说明她不够成熟，还是说明她尽力保持积极和正常的生活，即使她的生活都已翻天覆地？
显然许多人都有不同的观点，对于成熟也是。但是在这种情况下，你应该经历这些事情一遍，再来讨论这个问题。
因为芭比的角色已经给展现给TVD受众4年了。卡密的角色有多长时间？超过10分钟吗？这时你就能做出对比然后得出结论啦？
卡密是怎样的角色会在将来的TO剧集中展现给TO的受众。但是芭比的角色已经展现了4年了！
总之，说实话，成熟不是一个像外界展示自己的方法，而是面对这个世界的方法。芭比已经经历了很多苦难，而这些苦难只会给人生增添一种悲苦的味道，然后使他们迅速成熟，然而芭比始终怀着一颗开放的心态。她是一个幸存者。这对你来说还不够成熟吗？那太桑心了。也许卡密会满足你的标准。谁知道呢，也许她不是一个在悲苦中成长的少女，将会是对大K而言一个更成熟的版本。但让我告诉你，当你仅仅只为她成为一个完美的爱情角色而希望这个女人是成熟的，那很显然，你并不是真的关心这个角色是有多成熟，而是关心她能成为一条船上一个金光闪闪的附件。成熟是与它无关的。
终。I
显然许多人都有不同的观点，对于成熟也是。但是在这种情况下，你应该经历这些事情一遍，再来讨论这个问题。
因为芭比的角色已经给展现给TVD受众4年了。卡密的角色有多长时间？超过10分钟吗？这时你就能做出对比然后得出结论啦？
卡密是怎样的角色会在将来的TO剧集中展现给TO的受众。但是芭比的角色已经展现了4年了！
总之，说实话，成熟不是一个像外界展示自己的方法，而是面对这个世界的方法。芭比已经经历了很多苦难，而这些苦难只会给人生增添一种悲苦的味道，然后使他们迅速成熟，然而芭比始终怀着一颗开放的心态。她是一个幸存者。这对你来说还不够成熟吗？那太桑心了。也许卡密会满足你的标准。谁知道呢，也许她不是一个在悲苦中成长的少女，将会是对大K而言一个更成熟的版本。但让我告诉你，当你仅仅只为她成为一个完美的爱情角色而希望这个女人是成熟的，那很显然，你并不是真的关心这个角色是有多成熟，而是关心她能成为一条船上一个金光闪闪的附件。成熟是与它无关的。
终。I
