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Soap made from yiduan corpses

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1楼2012-11-23 12:08回复
    Soap made from human corpses


    2楼2012-11-23 12:08
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      2026-02-12 17:31:30
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      这是真相吗。。。反正没看过相关资料。。。。。。。。。。。。


      IP属地:广西3楼2012-11-23 12:32
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        。。。。。。!!!!!!


        IP属地:河北来自手机贴吧4楼2012-11-23 15:59
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          原来在这里么- -


          IP属地:湖北5楼2012-11-23 21:26
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            其实,wiki上“证实”的来源其实非常单一,虽然标题都起得很好,但相当集中于一个46年的口头认证上。说实话,这个Evidence does exist确实要打个问号
            在人体中脂肪是以细胞的形式存在的。人类成分的肥皂——我是说,如果它真的有的话,肯定是像人皮用具一样,铁证如山,不会有任何争议
            虽然没有解剖过人体,但是看过同学解剖的照片。对人体有一定了解的话,对这件事是很难想象的:纳粹用集中营淘汰的人员还能经济的提炼出脂肪来!靠什么?靠黑科技吗?


            6楼2012-11-23 23:10
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              说真的,我感到这个做网站的波兰人真的有必要去随便一个大学问一下。这种实验2002年开始干,2005年才出成果。他以为这是在做古DNA?
              这个文章硕士毕业也不够啊


              7楼2012-11-23 23:44
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                貌似混乱了,所以重来一下
                首先那句Evidence does exist后面是indicates the possibility 只表示一种可能性而且这句是对上面那句the Nazis did not produce soap from Jewish corpses on an industrial scale才是这个词条的关键部分,不过先不管它,继续讲是不是进行过相关试验说这里的证据集中在1946年的陈述上也没错,不过如果你去看注释就会发现那是纽伦堡审判记录的一部分,也就是不管最后采信没采信,反正检方觉得这事有可能而且词条的Postwar部分给出了这么一条
                In 2006 a sample of the soap archived at the International Court of Justice in The Hague was given for analysis to Andrzej Stołyhwo, an expert in the chemistry of fats from the Gdansk University of Technology in Poland. He concluded that some of the fat in the sample tested was of human origin. The sample of soap had previously been used as evidence in the post-WWII Nuremberg trials, but at the time the technology was unavailable to determine whether the soap had been produced from human fat. The human remains used to make the soap were believed to have been brought from Kaliningrad, Bydgoszcz and Stutthof concentration camp.[24][25]当年在纽伦堡被拿出来当证据的肥皂的原料被证明是来自人类


                8楼2012-11-23 23:45
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                  抱歉,倒了一天胶,脑子有点不清醒了
                  这篇文章最大的问题在这里:
                  Tests on the extant soap sample were carried out by Professor Andrzej Stołyhwo
                  of the Main School of Agrarian Economy (SGGW) in Warsaw, a specialist in the
                  chemistry of fats
                  很显然,如果我们要知道一些脂肪细胞是否不正常的来自人体,最简单的方法就是测量它是否含有某些人体内部器官的特异序列——那么找一个化学家来干这事是很奇怪的
                  byproduct during the process of reducing corpses for such purposes as obtaining
                  bones to be used for educational purposes by medical students
                  一个工业化学家是怎么得出这个结论的呢?


                  9楼2012-11-23 23:53
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                    然后来看这个波兰网站一共有几块肥皂样品


                    10楼2012-11-23 23:54
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                      说实话,纳粹人皮封面和人皮灯罩一类都有大量传世成品,我相信德国人当年应该真的打过这个主意
                      但是42年英国战俘竟然能看到生产线,竟然能搞出一个完整的配比,这其实是无限拔高了纳粹的科研能力。恐怕那些做网站的人并不了解这一点


                      12楼2012-11-24 00:13
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                        如果有相关报告的话,那应该在某种委员会的调查报告下面= - An inquiry by the Gdańsk Branch of the Commission for the Investigation of Crimes against the Polish Nation has concluded that soap was made from human fat and used for general cleaning purposes at the Anatomy Institute of the Gdańsk Medical Academy, under the direction of Professor Rudolf Spanner, during the Second World War.奥斯威辛博物馆关于此事的新闻稿


                        13楼2012-11-24 00:51
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