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【技术贴】想说爱你不容易——中国足球

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A lot has been written about how much Chinese love soccer and the spectacle of the World Cup, but the Chinese team is sitting at home, having yet again failed to qualify. They talk about a nation of 1.3 billion not being able to produce 11 great players. They talk and talk and talk about why this is the case, about what is wrong with the system, and what needs to be changed. Some of the talk is good, some is bad, much of it is mystified as to what is wrong. As someone who writes a lot (perhaps too much) on Chinese soccer, I had to throw my hat in the ring. First off, I think there needs to be a clarification, there’s a difference in answering why the Chinese team continues to fail vs. why a country of 1.3 billion people can’t field a better football side. Also, excuses about things like the lack of fields is a complete cop out if you look at how soccer is played by kids everywhere else in the world. On top of that, I’ve seen plenty of foreign kids kicking balls around their apartment community, but rarely if ever Chinese kids. So let’s get to the explanations and possible solutions. So here’s my assessment of the real problems.
1. the Education System The dog eat dog nature of the Chinese education system is unbelievable. From a young age, kids must go from the “right” elementary school to the “right” junior high to the “right” high school if they have a prayer of getting into the “right” college. The concept of “playtime” doesn’t exist for most kids, they get out of school (later than in most places in the world) and then go home to study or to an after school program. They don’t have time to kick a ball around and their parents would be unhappy if they caught them using their time in such a frivolous manner. There are no grass roots weekend youth soccer progra***ike you find in the US, but even in the few that do exist, expat kids are in the majority. Among some in the middle/upper class in China, who’ve been educated and/or spent a lot of time abroad, there is a growing looseness and allowing their kids more time to be kids, but they often will only choose a single activity and those tend to be something along the lines of golf or hockey, a more “exotic” sport that makes their kid unique among his peers. The large size of China’s population, the reason why so many people think it should be so easy to find 11 decent soccer players, also hurts it, with so many young people competing for a finite number of university spots, an hour or two kicking a ball around is seen as a waste of time. 2. Sports Schools
Connected with the above point is the Chinese system of sports schools. Kids as young as 7 are watched by coaches from local sports schools and chosen to take part in afterschool sports training or leave the normal education path to attend a sports school. At the same time, parents view their kid’s failure to be selected as a sign they aren’t good enough and that their focus needs to be on getting a good education. The sports schools usually stop making their selections around age 11 or 12, meaning that any late developers are pretty much out of luck, and ignoring a massive segment of the population. While this is important if you’re choosing small statured gymnasts or looking for tall basketball players, it doesn’t jive with what’s needed to be a star soccer player. 3. Soccer Can’t Be Taught



1楼2011-07-17 23:22回复
    The sports China excels in, ping pong, badminton, diving, weightlifting, etc., are all sports that are focused on a repetitive motion. Practicing the same motions 1,000 times a day, day in day out will perfect your skills and lead to success. Soccer doesn’t work that way, it isn’t possible to “teach” the game in the same way. Players need to be creative, anticipating not only what the opponent will do but what their teammates will do, and everyone needs to work together as a team, not just 11 individuals. In China, more often than not, the team’s play a rigid form of soccer, lacking the creativity and the flair you see elsewhere in the world, and when players display that flair, it often fails because teammates don’t expect it. Young Chinese talent needs to go overseas to train and play against other people, to build up that mental database of different ways to play and different systems. 4. Work Ethic
    Chinese youth teams often are very successful, but when they get into their late teens and early 20s and are hanging around with their Chinese Super League (CSL) teammates, they start picking up bad habits from their older teammates. There tends to be a culture of laziness in the CSL, I’m not going to blame it on corruption, but this is one element of it. The older players are making a lot of money and happy to be the best in China, they don’t feel the need to work hard and push to try and garner the attention of an overseas club. The rules are different for the stars versus the average players and the young starlets see the older stars not working hard and they emulate them. 5. Lack of a Plan
    The CFA is under the control of the General Administration of Sport, which is under the control of the Chinese government. For a government known for its (often successful) central planning, China’s failed miserably in coming up with a plan for their soccer team. In the past 10 years, China has gone through 8 coaches (counting the odd “two headed Serb situation” as 1) , a level of upheaval in the extreme. Often because the CFA fired the last coach and still has to pay his salary, they have little money to pay a new coach and end up with a less than ideal option. Every new coach has brought with him a new system and they’ve each had their own favorite players. Unlike the other teams around the world (like Korea or the US) that have turned themselves into regional powerhouses capable of beating anybody in the world, China’s failed to put into place a longterm plan for success. Internal changes in the CFA have brought with it different leaders with different plans and ideas, each stupider and more bound to failure than the one that came before it. Current manager Gao Hongbo, a former national team player himself, seems to have an understanding of what it takes to succeed and his bringing along younger players has brought China greater hope for the future, but there also needs to be some attention to what will come next, 4 or 5 years down the road.
    Nothing can be done to change the state of the education system, so we need to look beyond that. The sports school system is also highly unlikely to change as China sees its success in other sports as a validation that it works (even if it has failed to work in almost all team sport situations). The key to getting around the fact soccer can’t be taught is sending more players abroad for training. The Jianlibao side that went to Brazil for a few years of training produced future national team stars like Li Tie, Li Jinyu, and Li Weifeng as well as a number of solid domestic league players like Tao Wei and Zhang Yonghai. It seems the work ethic problem has improved with Gao Hongbo taking charge of the national team. As a former player himself and with a strong understanding of the Chinese game, Gao has instilled a new attitude into the younger players, getting more out of them than previous coaches. When it comes to lacking a plan, I’m less than optimistic about it, current head of the CFA Wei Di is nothing but a bureaucrat whose been in charge of a number of other sports in China, but doesn’t have any soccer credentials. Hopefully, he’ll let the soccer people like Gao handle things instead of coming up with stupid plans to have the Olympic team play against the professionals.
    


    2楼2011-07-17 23:22
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      A bonus reason, failure is expected, also needs to be considered. Over the last few years, on paper the Chinese side should be able to beat many of the teams it has played, however the prevailing attitude of the country’s fans and media seems to have been adopted by the players. When the team’s down by one or in a tied match late, they don’t seem to show the fight that we’ve seen so many teams display in the World Cup, instead the attitude among the players seems to be that losing is a foregone conclusion. This is another thing that appears to be changing under Gao, who will hopefully be around through World Cup 2014 qualifying (and hopefully coaching the side in the World Cup, if one can dream), but this needs to be a solid, permanent change that will last even if a new coach is appointed.


      3楼2011-07-17 23:22
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        排版有点问题~~
        我以为直接从QQ空间可以复制过来呢,结果格式就全乱了~~


        6楼2011-07-17 23:50
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          拜托,是 how much Chinese love soccer,您的断句真的有问题~~


          8楼2011-07-18 00:12
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            such as?


            15楼2011-07-18 00:30
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              我来翻译一下吧,不然……
              没有回复了都~~


              16楼2011-07-18 19:33
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                A lot has been written about how much Chinese love soccer and the spectacle of the World Cup, but the Chinese team is sitting at home, having yet again failed to qualify. They talk about a nation of 1.3 billion not being able to produce 11 great players. They talk and talk and talk about why this is the case, about what is wrong with the system, and what needs to be changed. Some of the talk is good, some is bad, much of it is mystified as to what is wrong.
                很多人都已记述过中国人对于足球的热爱和对世界杯的渴望,但是中国队却只能呆坐家中,总是一次又一次的与决赛圈无缘。他们总是在研讨这是一个有13亿人口的国度,但是却选不出11个顶尖球员。他们总是这样不断不断的研讨以期能找到根源,体制上的根源,以便能够有所改革。一些评论是正确的,一些却不尽然,但很多时候中国足球都仍然是令人困扰而难以解决的问题,譬如他们到底做错了什么……
                


                17楼2011-07-18 19:34
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                  2. Sports Schools
                  Connected with the above point is the Chinese system of sports schools. Kids as young as 7 are watched by coaches from local sports schools and chosen to take part in afterschool sports training or leave the normal education path to attend a sports school. At the same time, parents view their kid’s failure to be selected as a sign they aren’t good enough and that their focus needs to be on getting a good education. The sports schools usually stop making their selections around age 11 or 12, meaning that any late developers are pretty much out of luck, and ignoring a massive segment of the population. While this is important if you’re choosing small statured gymnasts or looking for tall basketball players, it doesn’t jive with what’s needed to be a star soccer player.
                  2,体校
                  在中国,就体育方面而言,普通教育系统之上的链接节点则是体校。一般7岁左右,当地体校的教练就会开始挑选尖子并加以训练,可能是在课后的练习,也可能直接停止普通的学校学习,进入体校专门进行专项体育的练习。同时,家长也会权衡利弊,以确定是选择普通教育还是进入体校系统进行体育练习。体校一般在11、12岁的时候就停止了遴选,那些被认为没有太多发展前途的孩子就会非常不幸,他们是一群被忽视的很大数目的可怜孩子。你是会成为一名身材娇小的体操运动员还是一名高大的篮球运动员,此时就显得非常重要了,但其实一名伟大的足球运动员并没有必要(或者说不一定是)在这时候就被遴选出来。


                  24楼2011-07-18 20:02
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                    3. Soccer Can’t Be Taught
                    The sports China excels in, ping pong, badminton, diving, weightlifting, etc., are all sports that are focused on a repetitive motion. Practicing the same motions 1,000 times a day, day in day out will perfect your skills and lead to success. Soccer doesn’t work that way, it isn’t possible to “teach” the game in the same way. Players need to be creative, anticipating not only what the opponent will do but what their teammates will do, and everyone needs to work together as a team, not just 11 individuals. In China, more often than not, the team’s play a rigid form of soccer, lacking the creativity and the flair you see elsewhere in the world, and when players display that flair, it often fails because teammates don’t expect it. Young Chinese talent needs to go overseas to train and play against other people, to build up that mental database of different ways to play and different systems.
                    3,足球不是被“教”出来的
                    中国的优势项目,诸如乒乓球、羽毛球、跳水、举重等的练习都讲究无数次重复的训练那些动作。每天上千次的重复同一个动作。反反复复的训练,不断的强化你的技术,自然成功就在眼前。但足球不是这样的,足球比赛不可能用同样的方式通过“教”就能教会。球员需要有灵性,需要有意识,不仅仅意识到对手要做什么,更要意识到自己的队友的行动。球队中每个人都需要团结一致成为一支真正的球队,而不是11个个体。在中国,往往1+1都小于2,球队中的配合显得非常呆板,缺少创造性,缺少对于比赛的阅读能力,哪怕有时候他们中有人表现出一定的比赛阅读能力,他们往往也会输掉比赛,因为队友们并没有能力去理解他的意图。年轻的中国天才们需要到海外训练并与别人对阵,在不同的环境中才能完善他们的能力。


                    25楼2011-07-18 20:20
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                      至少目前为止,足球还是最吸引眼球的运动in China~~
                      另外,球场的多少其实不见得是最重要的,关键是有多少孩子愿意踢球,因为在全世界有太多地方,同样没有球场,但是孩子们仍然能踢足球……
                      一般野球的场地要求,其实远低于篮球,如果中国能有足够的篮球场,自然没有借口说没有足够可以踢球的场地
                      


                      27楼2011-07-18 20:47
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                        why is that?
                        u cannot understand it?
                        r u kidding me?


                        30楼2011-07-18 21:19
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                          他说他完全没有看懂


                          32楼2011-07-18 21:28
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                            你个小屁孩,还需要多学习英文啊~~


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