-这遊戲是永恆的服務
-所以…… Snowbreak 其实是一個星际戰士？
-FOR THE EMPEROR 為了皇帝

一個嚴肅、黑暗的故事 ≠ 一個好的故事。
In a way, this is pretty much the core issue on not only gacha but gaming discussions in general.
在某種程度上，這幾乎是無論是抽卡遊戲還是遊戲討論中核心問題。
Some folks really are into the idea that characters should be like perpetually miserable and never get out from the depression hole, and god forbid if the MC is the one that helps them.
有些人真的很沉迷於這種想法，認為角色應該像永遠悲傷且從不走出抑鬱的深淵，
而上帝啊，禁止了主角是个能幫助他們的那個人

As a Spiderman fan,fuck the dark stories when only shitty happens,why should I care for a story knowing the only purpose it has is be torture porn?
作為蜘蛛人迷，當故事裡只有爛事發生時，我管你黑暗故事，為什麼要關心一個明知唯一目的就是變成酷刑的故事？
I'm not here to find the best story of gacha,im here to play fun game modes like race karts and goon with fellow commanders.
我這裡不是來找最佳抽卡故事，我是來玩像賽車卡丁車和跟隊長們一起胡鬧的有趣遊戲模式。
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Seriously, "mature" is just a buzzword for people to justify their taste. Being mature isn't always about being serious and dark, if you only likes dark & serious story that's really deppressing.
說真的，「成熟」只是人們為了辯解他們的品味而使用的流行語。成熟並不總是意味著嚴肅和黑暗，如果你只喜歡黑暗和嚴肅的故事，那真的很令人沮喪。
I'm a married man myself and I still enjoy harem stories.
我本人已婚，我仍然喜歡看后宫故事。
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In a way, thinking that “dark = mature” is actually immature childish thinking. It’s like a kid who first saw a movie with swear words and thought using swear words makes them grown up.
在某種程度上，認為「黑暗=成熟」其實是幼稚的兒童思維。就像一個小孩第一次看到有粗話的電影，以為使用粗話就變得成熟了。
Darkness can open up new story elements that kids may not be allowed to explore, but the way it is written can still be immature and stupid.
黑暗可以開啟新的故事元素，探讨儿童作品不能触及的境界，但寫作方式仍然可能幼稚且愚蠢。
But ultimately, C.S. Lewis (Narnia) said it best:
但最終，C.S. 路易斯（納尼亞）說得最精闢：
Critics who treat 'adult' as a term of approval, instead of as a merely descriptive term, cannot be adult themselves. To be concerned about being grown up, to admire the grown up because it is grown up, to blush at the suspicion of being childish; these things are the marks of childhood and adolescence.
將「成熟」視為讚譽的標籤，而非僅僅是描述性的詞語的批評者，本身並非成熟。關心自己是否長大，羨慕成熟因為其成熟，對被懷疑為幼稚感到羞恥；這些都是童年和青少年期的標誌。
(...) When I became a man I put away childish things, including the fear of childishness and the desire to be very grown up.
(...) 當我成為大人後，便擺脫了幼稚的事，包括對幼稚的恐懼以及想成為非常成熟的渴望。
Like what you like. Don’t worry about the approval of others especially those who are closed minded.
喜歡什麼喜歡什麼。別擔心別人的認可，特別是那些思想封閉的人。

Absolutely this. These immature and ignorant people all seem oblivious to the fact that Tolkien wipes the floor with Martin. Must be because they are too dumb to actually read and have only watched a game of thrones or something. Since someone already quoted Lewis, I'm quoting Tolkien:
絕對是這樣。這些幼稚且無知的人似乎都沒意識到托爾金把馬丁擊敗得體無完屍。一定是因為他們太笨了，根本沒有閱讀，只看了《權力的遊戲》或什麼的。既然有人已經引用過路易斯了，我也引用托爾金：
"And all the host laughed and wept, and in the midst of their merriment and tears the clear voice of the minstrel rose like silver and gold, and all men were hushed. And he sang to them, now in the Elven-tongue, now in the speech of the West, until their hearts, wounded with sweet words, overflowed, and their joy was like swords, and they passed in thought out to regions where pain and delight flow together and tears are the very wine of blessedness.”
“众人又笑又哭，在他们的欢乐与泪水之中，那吟游诗人的清越歌声宛如银与金响起，众人顿时静默。他对他们歌唱，时而以精灵语，时而以西方之语，直到他们的心被甜美的话语所伤而溢出，喜悦如利剑一般，他们的思想越过疆界，来到痛与欢合流之处，泪水成了福乐的酒。”

True, thats why I really dislike games like Arknight and Girls forntline.
確實，因此我非常不喜歡像《arknight》和《Girls forntline》這樣的遊戲。
At some.point is jusy missery porn.
在某個時候，這就是悲慘的色情。
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Limbus is even worse. It's misery porn and gore porn
《Limbus》甚至更糟。這是悲慘的色情和血腥的色情。
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my irl is depressing enough with my job, last thing I want is to get home and punish myself further by playing a dark game that would jiggle my balls like a clown
我的現實生活因工作已經很令人沮喪了，我最後想要的，是回到家裡透過玩一款會讓我的睪丸像小丑般搖擺的黑暗遊戲來進一步懲罰自己。

I couldn't have said it better, that's exactly what people confuse suffering = quality which is completely ridiculous. That's why I started to hate any manga or story that has revenge because it's always something stupid and empty, it's violence and degradation gratuitous and meaningless.
我沒辦法說得更清楚，這正是人們誤以為苦難=品質的混亂想法，這完全荒謬。這就是為什麼我開始討厭任何有復仇情節的漫畫或故事，因為它總是充滿愚蠢和空洞，暴力與墮落被濫用且毫無意義。
Suffering, hardship, IS part of a good story. But its less than half of it. Tolkien writes this from the Music that created the world:
苦難、磨難，確實是精彩故事的一部分。但這不過是其中不到一半。托爾金是從創造世界的音樂中寫下這句話：
"The one was deep and wide and beautiful, but slow and blended with an immeasurable sorrow, from which its beauty chiefly came."
「那一片深邃寬廣而美麗，卻緩慢，並混合著無法衡量之悲傷，而其美麗主要就來自這份悲傷。」
He writes this for Nienna:
他為尼婭寫下這段話：
"So great was her sorrow, as the Music unfolded, that her song turned to lamentation long before its end, and the sound of mourning was woven into the themes of the World before it began. But she does not weep for herself; and those who hearken to her learn pity, and endurance in hope[...]for she brings strength to the spirit and turns sorrow to wisdom."
「她的悲傷如此深重，隨著音樂展開，她的歌曲在結束前便轉為哀嘆，而哀悼之聲早已織入世界啟源前的主題之中。但她並非為自己而泣；而那些傾聽她的人，從中學會同情，並在希望中獲得堅持[...]因為她為靈魂帶來力量，並將悲傷轉化為智慧。」
And this for Gandalf:
這則則為甘道夫：
"for though he loved the Elves, he walked among them unseen, or in form as one of them, and they did not know whence came the fair visions or the promptings of wisdom that he put into their hearts. In later days he was the friend of all the Children of Ilúvatar, and took pity on their sorrows; and those who listened to him awoke from despair and put away the imaginations of darkness."
「雖然他愛著精靈，卻在他們之間隱藏不見，或化為他們中的一員，而他們不曉得那美麗的幻象從何而來，或是那賜予他們心靈智慧的啟示。在後來的日子裡，他是所有伊利維塔之子的朋友，憐憫他們的悲傷；而那些聽從他的人從絕望中醒悟，擺脫了黑暗的妄想。」
So suffering and despair only have a place in a story if its to be overcome and lead to a happy ending, or if the character fails the test and falls into despair (like Denethor).
所以痛苦與絕望只有在故事中佔有一席之地，如果它是為了被克服並導向快樂的結局，或者如果角色通過了考驗並陷入絕望（就像登丹頓）。

The biggest scam I've ever seen is the GFL series, which lets you buy a ring and "get married." But you know what? There are three games in the series. You pay, you get married, but by the next game, they completely forget everything that happened.
我所見過最大的詐騙是 GFL 系列，讓你可以買一個戒指並「結婚」。但你知道嗎？該系列有三款遊戲。你付錢、你結婚，但到了下一款遊戲，他們完全忘記了之前發生的一切。
Even though you have to buy three rings for the same character, the relationship is never confirmed, and all the romance disappears completely by the next game.
即使你必須為同一角色買三個戒指，關係也從未被確認，而且所有戀情在下個遊戲中完全消失。
They don't actually want MC to have romantic relationships, but they still make three profits from it.
他們其實並不希望 MC 有戀愛關係，但仍然從中獲得三種利益。
And they added male characters in the second game, and you can even "marry" them. They have forgotten the name of their game. The entire GFL series is a complete scam.
他們在第二部遊戲中添加了男性角色，甚至可以「結婚」給他們。他們已經忘了他們遊戲的名字。整個 GFL 系列完全是一場騙局。

"A serious, dark story ≠ a good story."
「一個嚴肅、黑暗的故事 ≠ 一個好故事。」
Thank you for saying this. I feel like this is a plague that has existed with anime fans forever, especially because many simply regurgitate opinions from anitubers: that comfy stories are bad stories because they don't make them feel emotional.
謝謝你這麼說。我覺得這就像是動漫粉絲中永遠存在的一種瘟疫，特別是因為許多人只是重複動漫頻道主的觀點：舒適的故事就是壞故事，因為它們讓他們沒有感動。
Well it does for me. I already have to deal with so much mental and emotional strain in my life, and while there are lots of examples of really good dark and serious stories, even those I'm not interested in investing my recreational time in when I just want to relax. And these comfy shows or games make me feel very good and emotional.
對我來說確實是這樣。我生活中已經必須處理很多精神與情緒上的壓力，雖然有很多真正黑暗和嚴肅的故事範例，但在我想放鬆時，我就是不想在我休閒時間投入那些我不感興趣的內容。而這些舒適的節目或遊戲讓我感覺非常好，情緒上也得到舒緩。
And to be frank, I think Snowbreak does a great job being serious when it needs to be, too! I feel worried and concerned when things go wrong for our girls, and because of the new direction, we know what happiness and peace looks like for all of them and want to bring them back to.
坦白說，我認為 Snowbreak 在需要嚴肅的時候，真的做得很好！當我們的女孩們遇到狀況時，我感到擔心和關心，而且由於新的方向，我們知道所有她們的幸福與平靜是什麼樣子，並且想要帶她們回歸那裡。
And in general, I don't often have time to read, and so it feels good to just log in and have my girls greet me sweetly, as I stay in the lobby and listen to the beautiful BGM, and go into the interaction mode to be more intimate with them.
而且，我通常沒有時間閱讀，所以只要登入，看到我的女孩們親切地跟我打招呼，我就待在休息室聽美妙的背景音樂，進入互動模式，跟她们更加親近，這讓我覺得很開心。

I laugh when I hear people say those dark, serious and realistic stories are great. It's just a gacha game, looking for literature here? Really?
聽到有人說那些黑暗、嚴肅又現實的故事很棒時，我就笑了。不過只是個抽卡遊戲，還在這裡尋找文學嗎？真的假的？
If the story is truly that great, try briefly retelling it a day later. The truth is, it's quickly forgotten. They just use a lot of obscure words let the story seem sophisticated. Many people can't even remember what the story was about just minutes ago.
如果故事真的那麼精彩，試著隔天簡單重述一次。事實是，很快就忘記了。他們只是用很多晦澀的詞彙，讓故事看起來很專業。許多人甚至幾分鐘前都還記不清故事是關於什麼的。

Honestly the game has already advertised itself as a niche game for a niche audience specifically said by the devs, yet there are always people trying to come here and want the game to follow their demands(having fem mc or have the mc be a camera and focus on the characters, etc),
誠實說，這款遊戲早已宣傳自己是針對特定小眾玩家的獨特遊戲，開發者也明確說過，但總有人想來這裡，要求遊戲必須遵從他們的願望（例如要有女性主角，或者讓主角成為相機聚焦在角色上等等）
there are already a shit ton of games out there doing that, so fuck off and play those games, stop trying to force into a community clearly not meant for you and attempt to change it, as a player, I don’t care if the game has new players or the revenue of the game as long as the game doesn’t turn into a shitfest like some other games
已經有超多遊戲在做這種事，所以滾開去玩那些遊戲吧，別試圖強行融入一個明顯不適合你的社群，並且試圖改變它，作為一名玩家，我不在乎遊戲是否有新玩家或遊戲的營收，只要遊戲不變成像某些其他遊戲那樣的爛摊子
I personally love the game’s direction and is one of the games i’ve really enjoyed which is why i gladly spend on the game.
我個人非常喜歡遊戲的發展方向，而且這是我真的很喜歡的遊戲之一，這就是為什麼我樂意花錢在這款遊戲上。

Recently got asked, "if you don't like dark stories why are you reading about world war II, Ukraine, shootings, ect.?"
最近有人問：「如果你不喜歡黑暗故事，為什麼還在閱讀關於第二次世界大戰、烏克蘭、槍擊事件等等的內容？」
BECAUSE IT HAPPENED. I can feel for that and be moved by it because I am grounding myself. I agree, I save all my tolerance for dark shit for this world.
因為這些事實發生了。我能夠為此感到共鳴並被其觸動，因為我在與現實連結。我同意，我把所有的寬容都留給這個世界的黑暗面。
Meanwhile people will go watch something like Evangelion and then ignore dark events in the world. What kind of maturity is that?
而其他人會去看像《新世纪福音战士》這樣的東西，然後卻忽略世界上發生的黑暗事件。那種成熟是什麼樣子？
Finally! Frigging finally someone said it!! That's exactly my point, they love dark and depressing stories and even when asked entirely ignore those who are in pain and suffering IRL, the hell is their problem!
終於！可憐啊終於有人說出來了！！這就是我的看法，他們喜歡黑暗又悲傷的故事，甚至當有人問起時完全不理會那些在現實生活中受苦的人，他們到底有什麼問題啊！

"major split in the community between global and CN players"
「全球玩家和國際玩家之間的社群重大分歧」
All global players are with CN players here. We want ML and fanservice. This is the reason we hold this game peak.
所有全球玩家都在這裡與國際玩家一起。我們想要機器人和粉絲福利。這是我們認為這款遊戲達到巔峰的原因。
"There are no "real" supporters, only just supporters & fans"
「沒有『真正』的支持者，只有支持者與粉絲而已」
This game gives a certain experience, and there is big market demand for that. (Due to the unfortunate transformation of "real" women to men.)
「這款遊戲提供某種體驗，而且市場對此有巨大的需求。（由於『真正』女性不幸轉變成男性。）」
Nevertheless, why do we care what others says again? Just enjoy the game and let haters die in their jealousy, as they usually do.
「然而，我們又何必在乎別人說什麼呢？好好享受遊戲，讓嫉妒他們的人死在嫉妒裡，他們通常都是這樣的。」

好猛，可惜海外舆论环境不同，放这边我一个有男不玩甩过去汴京都懒得汴了