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      IP属地:山东来自Android客户端4楼2025-09-10 21:33
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        但是这一次不一样,此诚危急存亡之秋也,难得一次吧友们,包括整个中文社区,不是要求中系之私利,而是拧成一股绳,要求对中文社区尊重之公利。中国社区乃是战雷社区人数占比最多之社区,也是战雷收益榜绝对的前三,只要有信念,只要拧成一股绳,失败,是不属于我们的!
        团结的吧u获得小胜!要擅长舆论战,团结...
        【论坛贴】中系什么时候能获得分体式防空....
        【权重变动】这个不是权重变动,这个只是....
        【理性发言】在论坛发言请务必理性,否则....
        【增援】论坛需要你的增援!小鬼子都开始....
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          声明一下,我是哪个系都开的,虽然之前很多次请大家帮忙冲J-7D礼包重做,冲道尔折叠降权重等(并都取得了一定的实际战果),但是这次,只为中文社区被尊重,只为中文社区的意见被看见!
          不要说什么中文社区敏感肌,那是因为其他的东西“万字”,包括给乌克兰载具加到苏联去,给韩系加日系里,他都不敢碰!
          这次,我们也要让他们知道,中文社区在乎的东西,也是不能碰的!


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            现在开始逐条翻译战雷“从不亏待”84条,方便大家引用,如果gaijin,你有窥中文社区屏的,你也好好看看什么叫“从不亏待”:
            1.2019年 为了蹭国庆热度 把在国服战雷中已经存在的中系搬到国际服 然而在这个版本的版本名叫夜视 中系也是迄今为止唯一一个加入游戏时没有专属版号的系
            1. In 2019, to capitalize on the CN National Day hype, the Chinese tech tree—which had already existed in the CN server of War Thunder—was introduced to the main server. However, this update was named "Night Vision," making the Chinese tech tree the only one to be added without a dedicated version title to this day.


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              2. 在刚出中系的2019-2020年 当时中系普遍存在同车型对比苏系原版维修费更贵/性能更差/权重更高
              2. During the initial release of the Chinese tech tree in 2019-2020, a common issue was that many Chinese vehicles had higher repair costs, inferior performance, and were placed at a higher Battle Rating compared to their Soviet counterparts.


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                3. 至今不知道在哪里的PL11 PL11是阿斯派德的换皮导弹 理论上只需要改个名字就可以放到游戏里来 在解包数据里 PL11至少在J8B刚出的那个版本就已经做好了,并且已经在预告片中展示了 然而 直到今天主动弹都满天飞 我们依然不知道PL11到底到哪里去了
                3. The whereabouts of the PL-11 remain unknown to this day. The PL-11 is essentially a copy-paste of the Aspide missile with little difference; theoretically, it only needed to change a name change and modifty a few specifications to be added to the game. According to datamines, the PL-11 was already there at least since the version when the J-8B was first introduced and had even been shown in the trailer. However, even today, when Fox 3s are everywhere, we still have no idea when the PL-11 will be introduced.


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                  4. J8B有好弹雷达瞎 J8F有好雷达没雷达弹
                  先不谈J8B雷达的实际性能究竟如何 在当时那个版本 中系需要用J7E和J8B对抗F14A和23MLD 你开这两架无全向的飞机出去几乎就是饲料
                  而J8可堪一用的雷达要等到J8F 那么J8F刚出时的武备是什么呢? 没错就是那6发PL8!在当时F14 EJ改满地爬的环境下 唯一的优势就是带头瞄 到了米格29版本后甚至要去和27ER对线以至于很长一段时间里 J8F都是搬炸弹专用机,基本没人玩 J8F真正吃上肉 要等到主动弹版本的第一次权重拉升 几乎整整两年
                  既然当时不给发主动弹,为什么不发别的能发射半主动弹和好雷达的J8?
                  在视频明确标明J8F改进后能发射PL11,又为什么拒绝给J8F发PL11呢?
                  4. The J-8B have decent missiles but a terrible radar, while the J-8F had a good radar but no radar missiles.
                  Let's put aside the actual performance of the J-8B's radar. Back in that version when J-8B was firstly introduced, the Chinese tech tree need to counter F-14As and MiG-23MLDs using J-7Es and J-8Bs. Taking these two aircraft without all-aspect missiles into battle meant you were practically cannon fodder.
                  The first J-8 variant to get a usable radar was the J-8F. So, what was the J-8F's armament when it was first introduced? That's right, those six PL-8s! In the meta dominated by F-14s and F-4 EJ Kais, its only advantage was having a HMS. Then, after the MiG-29 update, it even had to face Su-27s with R-27ERs.
                  For a very long time, the J-8F was primarily used as a bomb truck to bomb bases for grinding; barely anyone played it seriously. The J-8F didn't truly become competitive until the first Battle Rating stretching for top tiers that came with Fox3s, nearly two full years later.
                  Since Gaijin refused to give it Fox 3s back then, why didn't they introduce a different J-8 variant that can fire Fox 1 and havea decent radar?
                  Furthermore, since the official video clearly stated and showed the J-8F's upgrade allowed it to fire PL-11s with actual vids, why did Gaijin refuse to give the J-8F its PL-11s?


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                    5. 中系直升机缺失长达两年(实际是两年9个月) 在此之前中系只有陆空两条线 ,也是最后一个拿到直升机的系,整个中系体系长期都是残缺状态的情况下,很少有强度达标的载具(比如下个版本更新之后,中系又成为了唯一一个没有分体式防空的系)
                    5. The Chinese helicopter tree was missing for a full two years (actually 2 years and 9 months). Until then, China only had ground and air tech trees, making it the last nation to receive helicopters. While the entire Chinese tech tree remained for a long-term, a incomplete tech tree without a proper system or set up, it rarely received vehicles that were competitive in the meta (and even without surprise, after the next update, China will once again be the only nation without a multi-vehicle AA system).


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                      6. 三架攻击无人机里,中系的无人机射程最近,导弹后效最差,至今仍是如此。无人机都退环境了,才扣扣索索发个1050重生点的AKD10,压根没用
                      Among the three attack UAVs, the Chinese Wing-Loong has the basic missile with the shortest range and the weakest post-pen effect, and this remains the case to this update. Gaijin only reluctantly gave it a 1050 SP AKD-10 long after drones had already fallen out of the meta, making it utterly useless.


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                        7.中系乘员组长期普遍存在“巨人”成员组问题,受击模型大于其他系乘员组,并且模型从测试服出来到正式服都一直存在漏风严重的问题,特别是炮盾耳轴强度一直以来的双标,例如微博477大佬提出的苏联坦克炮盾耳轴虚空加厚,还附带详细结构图的issue,被gaijin无理由直接删除,不利于俄联邦的话一点不能说。
                        7. The Chinese tech tree has long suffered from the "giant crew" issue, where the crew hitboxes are larger than those of other nations. Additionally, the armor models have been plagued with severe mal-modeled ridiculous weak spots and gaps since their introduction on the test server, all the way into the live server. This is especially true for the controversial double standards applied to the protection of gun mantlets and trunnions.
                        Especially the case raised by the well-known Weibo user 477, who provided detailed structural diagrams showing how Soviet tank mantlets are inexplicably thicker in-game. The issue report was mysteriously directed deleted by Gaijin without a valid reason. It seems any criticism that is perceived as unfavorable to the Russian TT is simply not allowed.


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                          8. 中系顶级直升机的猜灯谜 RWR,用脑子想想都知道,这么现代化的直升机怎么会用这么差的RWR,由于我国军武相关资料保密程度太好,Gaijin一句没有详细资料就一直搁置不管,甚至这版本YH-96 RWR还被移除了K、L、M波段,这下连灯谜都没得猜了
                          8. The top-tier Chinese helicopter is equipped with a functionally illiterate RWR that cannot identify the source of radar. Common sense would suggest that such a modern helicopter would not use such a pathetic RWR. Due to the highly classified nature of Chinese military equipment, Gaijin uses the excuse of "lack of detailed documentation" to leave the issue unaddressed indefinitely. To make matters worse, in the current update, the YH-96 RWR had its K, L, and M bands removed. It is now completely blind.


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                            9.前资料员发的资料被选择性还原,例如PGZ09只还原了资料的-2度俯角,同样资料里的VT和AHEAD弹以及液压悬挂拖了很久才发。
                            9. The data submitted by the former CN data consultant was only partially implemented. For example, only the -2 degrees of gun depression for the PGZ09 was adopted from the documentation, while other elements from the same source, such as VT and AHEAD ammunition along with the hydraulic suspension, were only added after a significant delay.


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